H.R. 2339

[perdurabo]

Nope. It’s all non face to face transactions.

it depends on how that bill is written. If the details are targeting online, a good lawyer can weave through a loop hole for catalog ordering or by phone. Just depends. If I was an online vendor, I’d have the lawyer geared up and ready to go.

 

[brian64]

The "face to face" thing is just another bogus excuse.

If that was really the criteria it could be done with Skype.

There is lots of adult content on the web that requires age verification. But as with so many other things, there are double standards everywhere. Selective enforcement.

 

[gervais]

One more load is on the way from Esteval's. That brings the cellar to over 150 lbs. I fight these fights against "the man" in my own way.

#winning

"You" might be winning, but many of your pipe smoking brethren will be screwed, not to mention a passion we all share will eventually die off. "The man" still wins

 

[didimauw]

They'll be comin' for your Carter Hall too eventually. Surely you realize there's never any end to it...they will never be satisfied. It's a big mistake to think you can ever compromise with such creatures...the control addiction is insatiable and relentless.

Meh, alcohol was illegal once ...for a little while....

 

[olkofri]

Nope. It’s all non face to face transactions.

Skype to the rescue!!

(Uh-huh)

 

[Bengel]

Meh, alcohol was illegal once ...for a little while....

Yea, all this makes me want a drink and a smoke?

 

[olkofri]

Meh, alcohol was illegal once ...for a little while....

Yes, it was, but we cannot mollify our minds with that history: the current socio-economic-political conditions are very different from those back then. Nowadays, they basically have their panopticon in place already, which is one reason they are so cocky.

Just how much your bank is telling others about your finances

 

[perdurabo]

When I started ordering tobacco online, I was under the impression that the vendor goes through some sort of process that verifies age. Am I wrong?

The "face to face" thing is just another bogus excuse.

If that was really the criteria it could be done with Skype.

There is lots of adult content on the web that requires age verification. But as with so many other things, there are double standards everywhere. Selective enforcement.

 

[brian64]

When I started ordering tobacco online, I was under the impression that the vendor goes through some sort of process that verifies age. Am I wrong?

As far as I know most of them just have you check the box stating that you are of adult age. But they could verify it more accurately if they wanted to...or were required to.

 

[perdurabo]

You can order Alcohol online. You must sign for it. Why not use this process, Rep. Frank Pallone Jr.?

Mr. Pallone, how are you going to explain the disruption of commerce and loss of Jobs. Mr. Pallone? What a Smuck. Sponsoring anti competition legislation for cronies.

Yea, all this makes me want a drink and a smoke?

 

[perdurabo]

As far as I know most of them just have you check the box stating that you are of adult age. But they could verify it more accurately if they wanted to...or were required to.

It would be nice for a vendor to speak up. But you know they have their ass clenched and bracing for impact.

 

[Bengel]

JR cigar required a copy of my DL ten years ago, others not.

 

[cfreud]

The state of Kentucky is the second-largest producer of tobacco in the country. Love him or hate him, Mitch McConnell is up for reelection this year and will be engaged in CYA.

 

[BROBS]

Got this ad on another site due to cookies I assume.

 

[oldgeezersmoker]

An explanation of what transpired today. Stay tuned until tomorrow
See here

 

[Bowie]

An explanation of what transpired today. Stay tuned until tomorrow
See here

Very interesting. Thanks for posting. It's interesting that the ban on menthol could be this bill's undoing.

 

[gervais]

Passed house

 

[docpierce]

Looks like it passed:

Bill Number Status Full Text Proceedings H. Res. 866 Status Text View Details Time Activity 2:45:13 P.M. Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection. 2:45:11 P.M. On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 210 - 200 (Roll no. 75). 2:38:48 P.M. On ordering the previous question Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 224 - 189 (Roll no. 74). 2:02:45 P.M. Considered as unfinished business. H. Res. 866 — "Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 2339) to amend the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act with respect to the sale and marketing of tobacco products, and for other purposes." 1:06:26 P.M. POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS - At the conclusion of debate on H. Res. 866, the Chair put the question on ordering the previous question and by voice vote, announced that the ayes had prevailed. Mr. Burgess demanded the yeas and nays and the Chair postponed further proceedings on the question on ordering the previous question until a time to be announced. 12:20:57 P.M. DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H. Res. 866. 12:19:22 P.M. Considered as privileged matter. H. Res. 866 — "Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 2339) to amend the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act with respect to the sale and marketing of tobacco products, and for other purposes."

That sux.

 

[smokiespipesmoker123]

It hasnt passed the house.. they are doing 90 mins of debate. Only the rule has passed

 

[smudgersmissingleg]

If they do bring this in how long would it take to come into effect? Months? Years?