I love it!You're all loving your decaf coffee, right?
the thing that disturbs me most is the amount of processing and adulteration of the tobacco leaf that must happen to remove the nicotine. How could that possibly result in anything remotely smokeable, let alone enjoyable?I love it!
Used to drink caffeinated coffee since... forever.
On a lark, I decided to give it a kick because a part of me is a masochist -apparently- as I like to confront my hang-ups and vices on occasion to see if I still have willpower in good supply. Results vary.
It's a surprising and sometimes uncomfortable exercise, but if you're ever interested to see what you're genuinely attached to and why, cutting it out for a long period of time shines a very bright, informative light on it. My minimum is a month to get the full effect. Helps keep things fresh for me.
The change from caffeinated to non-caffeinated living was so amazing that I'll never go back. Ever. You just need to find good blends, which are absolutely out there. I was an absolute coffee snob! Really. I won't go into embarrassing detail.
The sleep I get without caffeine is amazing. I thought I was just getting old. The next day is full of energy from the start. Just wonderful.
Anyway, that's all to say that I would very much like to see (and probably really enjoy) nicotine free tobacco. I think it's an excellent idea. I'd be very interested to see how it makes me feel when compared to tobacco with nicotine.
I expect I would keep smoking, like Sable, for the pure enjoyment. I'd just like to experience that enjoyment without nicotine nudging me in certain directions or timings.
I know there's a good number of people here who claim to be super powered and are immune to nicotine, but I'm willing to bet a house that the majority of pipe/cigar/cigarette smokers are getting a fairly strong nudge from that chemical.
Wouldn't it be great to enjoy without that, on your own terms? Not asking therobotssuper humans... but rather those that have a normally functioning brain stem that lets in these signals from nicotine.
But, having the government force it down the chute is a whole other mozza ball, and I'm not supportive of that.
Mixed feelings on this one. Wish it was here already; too bad the government has other motives.
I hear what you're saying and have done a few different stints of abstaining here and there to reset things. With coffee/caffein, I didn't try very hard to locate "good" decaf coffee and just went with what I found at the grocery store until I just realized I'd rather go without coffee at all. I used to be a morning til bed coffee drinker but I've since learned to just cut it off around noon and it's all good at bedtime, sleep-wise.I love it!
Used to drink caffeinated coffee since... forever.
On a lark, I decided to give it a kick because a part of me is a masochist -apparently- as I like to confront my hang-ups and vices on occasion to see if I still have willpower in good supply. Results vary.
It's a surprising and sometimes uncomfortable exercise, but if you're ever interested to see what you're genuinely attached to and why, cutting it out for a long period of time shines a very bright, informative light on it. My minimum is a month to get the full effect. Helps keep things fresh for me.
The change from caffeinated to non-caffeinated living was so amazing that I'll never go back. Ever. You just need to find good blends, which are absolutely out there. I was an absolute coffee snob! Really. I won't go into embarrassing detail.
The sleep I get without caffeine is amazing. I thought I was just getting old. The next day is full of energy from the start. Just wonderful.
Anyway, that's all to say that I would very much like to see (and probably really enjoy) nicotine free tobacco. I think it's an excellent idea. I'd be very interested to see how it makes me feel when compared to tobacco with nicotine.
I expect I would keep smoking, like Sable, for the pure enjoyment. I'd just like to experience that enjoyment without nicotine nudging me in certain directions or timings.
I know there's a good number of people here who claim to be super powered and are immune to nicotine, but I'm willing to bet a house that the majority of pipe/cigar/cigarette smokers are getting a fairly strong nudge from that chemical.
Wouldn't it be great to enjoy without that, on your own terms? Not asking therobotssuper humans... but rather those that have a normally functioning brain stem that lets in these signals from nicotine.
But, having the government force it down the chute is a whole other mozza ball, and I'm not supportive of that.
Mixed feelings on this one. Wish it was here already; too bad the government has other motives.
Iv been experimenting with my relationship to caffeine for the past 8-10 months myself, especially over the last 4 or so. Iv been doing a lot of tea (lower levels), herbal teas and decaf coffee. I limit myself to a single caffeinated cup per day if I do regular (Iv averaged 36-48 ounces of caffeinated coffee for years).I love it!
Used to drink caffeinated coffee since... forever.
On a lark, I decided to give it a kick because a part of me is a masochist -apparently- as I like to confront my hang-ups and vices on occasion to see if I still have willpower in good supply. Results vary.
It's a surprising and sometimes uncomfortable exercise, but if you're ever interested to see what you're genuinely attached to and why, cutting it out for a long period of time shines a very bright, informative light on it. My minimum is a month to get the full effect. Helps keep things fresh for me.
The change from caffeinated to non-caffeinated living was so amazing that I'll never go back. Ever. You just need to find good blends, which are absolutely out there. I was an absolute coffee snob! Really. I won't go into embarrassing detail.
The sleep I get without caffeine is amazing. I thought I was just getting old. The next day is full of energy from the start. Just wonderful.
Anyway, that's all to say that I would very much like to see (and probably really enjoy) nicotine free tobacco. I think it's an excellent idea. I'd be very interested to see how it makes me feel when compared to tobacco with nicotine.
I expect I would keep smoking, like Sable, for the pure enjoyment. I'd just like to experience that enjoyment without nicotine nudging me in certain directions or timings.
I know there's a good number of people here who claim to be super powered and are immune to nicotine, but I'm willing to bet a house that the majority of pipe/cigar/cigarette smokers are getting a fairly strong nudge from that chemical.
Wouldn't it be great to enjoy without that, on your own terms? Not asking therobotssuper humans... but rather those that have a normally functioning brain stem that lets in these signals from nicotine.
But, having the government force it down the chute is a whole other mozza ball, and I'm not supportive of that.
Mixed feelings on this one. Wish it was here already; too bad the government has other motives.
Pissed you off enough to bring you out of the shadows. Good to see you again!These bastards..
#Funkhouse was right
I'm guessing this is the tricky part. I would assume it can be done on the genetic level. If it's not already being done in the opposite direction, I would be surprised.amount of processing and adulteration of the tobacco leaf that must happen
That's great if it's not messing with your rest. I tried having caffeinated coffee in the morning only, when no good decaf was around, but that's enough to tweak me at night.cut it off around noon and it's all good at bedtime,
Me too. I never gave it much thought for most of my life. I started drinking coffee quite young, so never knew anything different for the vast majority of my adult life. I think age and metabolism plays a big part as well. It seems to sneak up on you when you're young and sticks with you through older age, with diminishing returns that are maybe attributed to other things.Caffeine addiction, for me, surpassed any nicotine response my body ever had
Welcome back!These bastards..
#Funkhouse was right
Not an answer to your question, but nicotine doesn’t develop in tobacco seedlings until they are 8 weeks old. I just have a vision of “micro green RYO” being marketedBy what method is nicotine reduced in a leaf? Is the compound water soluble?
Is that your band? The lead singer kinda looks like you!Welcome back!
I wish bro. But my nipples don’t look nearly as good.Is that your band? The lead singer kinda looks like you!
Welcome back Funkmeister! I knew you'd survive the gulag.These bastards..
#Funkhouse was right
Not the leading cause of preventable deaths. CDC proposes another cause of death 50% higher than that."
The FDA is poised to set a maximum nicotine level in cigarettes and some other tobacco products, looking to make them less addictive and wean smokers away from the habit. Despite an overall trend away from smoking, tobacco use remains the No. 1 cause of preventable deaths in the United States.
"Lowering nicotine levels to minimally addictive or non-addictive levels would decrease the likelihood that future generations of young people become addicted to cigarettes and help more currently addicted smokers to quit," FDA Commissioner Robert M. Califf said as the agency announced its plan.
Outlining the potential benefits, the FDA notes that 480,000 people die each year from disease attributed to smoking. Overall, it says, "tobacco use costs nearly $300 billion a year in direct health care and lost productivity."
The FDA plans to issue its proposed rule in May 2023.
The FDA wants to regulate nicotine for the first time : NPR
Make sense to me. I figure most of the member here are adults and can decide knowing the dangers. Not so much with young folks who might not understand the risks.
you could smoke Maple leaves if you didn’t need the nic. Could put topping on some wood chips. That option is already available.I love it!
Used to drink caffeinated coffee since... forever.
On a lark, I decided to give it a kick because a part of me is a masochist -apparently- as I like to confront my hang-ups and vices on occasion to see if I still have willpower in good supply. Results vary.
It's a surprising and sometimes uncomfortable exercise, but if you're ever interested to see what you're genuinely attached to and why, cutting it out for a long period of time shines a very bright, informative light on it. My minimum is a month to get the full effect. Helps keep things fresh for me.
The change from caffeinated to non-caffeinated living was so amazing that I'll never go back. Ever. You just need to find good blends, which are absolutely out there. I was an absolute coffee snob! Really. I won't go into embarrassing detail.
The sleep I get without caffeine is amazing. I thought I was just getting old. The next day is full of energy from the start. Just wonderful.
Anyway, that's all to say that I would very much like to see (and probably really enjoy) nicotine free tobacco. I think it's an excellent idea. I'd be very interested to see how it makes me feel when compared to tobacco with nicotine.
I expect I would keep smoking, like Sable, for the pure enjoyment. I'd just like to experience that enjoyment without nicotine nudging me in certain directions or timings.
I know there's a good number of people here who claim to be super powered and are immune to nicotine, but I'm willing to bet a house that the majority of pipe/cigar/cigarette smokers are getting a fairly strong nudge from that chemical.
Wouldn't it be great to enjoy without that, on your own terms? Not asking therobotssuper humans... but rather those that have a normally functioning brain stem that lets in these signals from nicotine.
But, having the government force it down the chute is a whole other mozza ball, and I'm not supportive of that.
Mixed feelings on this one. Wish it was here already; too bad the government has other motives.
Probably by treating with some FDA approved carcinogen.By what method is nicotine reduced in a leaf? Is the compound water soluble?
Welcome back Funkmeister! I knew you'd survive the gulag.
Did you ever make peace with the cat?
Slingshot. Silent and possibly deadly when soft spots are hit.They made me read a few books and now I can't buy guns.. but at least I'm "free".
She's still around here.. I guess I love her again.