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Jun 27, 2016
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foursidedtriangle
I am speaking on behalf of people who do not have access to it nor will ever have access to it at below ebay price.
With the internet & the smartphone, & the fact that Esoterica & Germains have been much easier to get recently as compared to the past few years, there are no excuses.

If they have access to it at Ebay prices, then presumably they have access to the rest of the internet as well.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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"And, one day you might get as good as me, ha ha, then we can share a bowl of Penzance."
:rofl: This from a guy who can't even coax an orgasmic smoke from a corn cob full of Prince Albert!

 

lawdawg

Lifer
Aug 25, 2016
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If you haven't experienced the immense pleasure of sitting on the edge of a creek with your best friend on a summer day with a cob of burley, a cheap American light beer, and a fishing rod in hand, then you haven't really lived :puffy:

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
Same for the scalpers they have less certainty to sell at a higher price.
I so dearly love convoluted logic. Sometimes it's the best kind. :rofl:
You are betting that demand will go down if the price goes up. Might be a very risky bet! If I were a scalper, I'd buy the same quantity, or more, and sell at a higher price. I might even reduce my profits and keep the price the same for a bit, then gently raise my price while ordering more product. You haven't even tried the blend and you're willing to pay more if you can find it, based solely on what you've read.
Nothing you've suggested, will make the blend easier for you to score. You are just going to have to "suck it up" and do the work, just like all the others. Hopefully, you will find the blend to be satisfactory and worth the effort. If not ...c'est la vie!

 

techie

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 20, 2018
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I've only been a pipe smoker for two months and by taking the advice of the experienced pipers here, I've already been able to obtain an 8oz bag of Margate, a tin of And So To Bed, and best of all, 3 ounces of 6 year aged Penzance. The funny thing is that I actually stopped looking for Esoterica, and they just happened to show up at the right time.

 

npod

Lifer
Jun 11, 2017
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For my initial MBA project I thought about doing an in depth study of pipe tobacco as a theme. When I looked at Esoterica specifically it turned out to be so damn simple that it wouldn't pass for any serious contemplation. It is pure basic supply and demand economics. A ninth grader could understand the variables. High quality product, high demand, limited supply. On top of that, Germain and Arango don't even need to advertise, it's all urban legend and markets itself. Every internet board clammers about it, debates it, covets it, hates it. It's good name recognition and also scandal, fodder for the American market. And so it goes. It is a "status" symbol now. People "want" it. Again, classic economics.

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
It's waaaaaay too late now. But, I bet if some poor soul had laid out the same problem, without the "woe is me" economic gobblydegook, if some member here would've just sent him some of the damned stuff to try. It's happened before.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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The best thing about this thread is Patrica Arquette's cleavage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaRYfraX9gA

 
May 8, 2017
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Just to echo an earlier post, my recent trip to the UK seemed to confirm no shortage of Germain's, Rattray's, Gawith, et al. All at essentially the same price as any other pipe tobaccco in the UK, which is to say, high.

 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
13,017
22,165
SE PA USA
I picture them smoking pipes, linking arms and singing a rousing rendition of “Esoterica People” to the tune of “Everyday People”.

 

erhardt85

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 14, 2017
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Jiminks is correct it wouldn't work. One simple fact that most people fail to recognize is that it's only a simple matter of supply and demand. The small supply, no matter if the price is 30 dollars or 80 dollars, dictates a high demand. In turn, high demand dictates yet a higher price. If such a price is reached that no after market buyer is willing to pay then the supply will stack and increase and the demand and price will fall to meet it. Yet it will never fall to the price we wish because eventually people will snag it p and the balance renewed. It's unfortunate but the price asked and paid on the aftermarket is indeed the correct price, as dictated by the constant demand. Esoterica raising the price actually hurts everyone because as jiminks stated the sellers will purchase it and set the price higher to see their profit, and the market price will shift higher. Or... In my opinion what will happen is even worse... The aftermarket diminishes due to decreased profits for the sellers, and therefore the chance to purchase it by normal buyers becomes diminished because their only hope of finding it is in said aftermarket. Finding it in online stores is next to impossible for most people, and stock at brick and mortar stores is often low or limited by design or due to scarcity. In my opinion, as long as Germain keeps the production low we should be happy that things are as they are... A chance at getting it cheap online or at the store, and if not then we can find it for increased price on the aftermarket. Not desirable, but better than not having it at all.

In other words the price you see it at in the aftermarket is it's true value, and seeing Germain raise the price to such value would simply mean that it would be a lot harder to find for many people. That's my fifty cents.

 
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