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Maybe there is a chance someone from that company is reading this. You could consider an increase of your prices to $30 for 2oz and $80 for 8oz. It would accomplish two things, gives us mere mortals a chance to try your blends and secondly reduce the incentive (profit) from reselling your products.
The community values your products at that price or higher, so the market has determined the price independently and you may as well benefit from it.

 

chasingembers

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Well, the majority of us mere mortals don't rely on e-tailors for it. Call B&Ms, I get the tins for $14 and the bags for $30.

 

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jiminks

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It won't work. The same people already paying more will just buy it all, and those who can't afford to pay more than the current prices will be effectively locked out forever. All your plan will do is enable the wealthier smokers to get it easier. And most likely, this would cause the prices on the secondary market to rise even further.

 

beefeater33

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Please mr. gas company, raise the price of gasoline! I want to pay more! And please mr. electric company, raise the price for my electricity! I want to pay more, so you good folks can make more profit!.........

Please, Please... car manufacturers, raise your prices!!!! I WANT TO PAY MORE!!! I WAAAAANT TOOOOOOOOOOO PAAAAAAAAAY MOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!...............

Methinks there's a fool amongst us......... :crazy:

 

sablebrush52

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I buy mine from B&M's. If you want to find Esoterica blends you will have to do the footwork. Eventually you will find what you're looking for. All this idea does is establish scalpers prices as the new retail. I have been patiently buying a bag here and a bag there over a number of years. I no longer have to chase it. If I can do it, so can you.

 

morgansteele

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Esoterica makes fine tobaccos. But, there’s no reason to chase them down. There are so many fine blends out there that you can buy cheaply or in bulk. My Top 10 doesn’t include an Esoterica. The Germain blends are well crafted but the prices simply reflect scarcity. Save your money and buy: Maltese Falcon, Balkan Supreme, Sutliff 515, Squadron Leader, Peter Stokkebye’s LBF, LNF, or LTF, Boswel’s North woods, Sutliff ERR match, Orlik Golden Slice, Dark Bird’s Eye, Exotic Passion...

 
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I understand that some people have access to it or have a lot of it. I am speaking on behalf of people who do not have access to it nor will ever have access to it at below ebay price.

 

sablebrush52

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I am speaking on behalf of people who do not have access to it nor will ever have access to it at below ebay price.
Simple answer. Pick up a phone and start calling B&Ms as soon as there's a sighting in the wild. No need to screw everyone.

 

pianopuffer

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I've got a few tins FS on the site. I realize they aren't as cheap as embers has found, but I figured I would grab them at the local B&M in case anyone wanted them. Not making any profit on these, but thought I could help out the fellow members who did hunt for this stuff.

 

mikefu

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My local B&M does a good job of getting them in somewhat regularly. $13 for tins and $35 per bag. My checking with them every other week or so has led to a few pounds in my cellar. Just find a place to start a relationship with, and keep chatting and going back. After a while, the stars will align and you’re bound to get some.

 

jpmcwjr

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I've got a few tins FS on the site. I realize they aren't as cheap as embers has found, but I figured I would grab them at the local B&M in case anyone wanted them. Not making any profit on these, but thought I could help out the fellow members who did hunt for this stuff.
Your B+M is selling Margate tins @ $45.00?? Good Lord.

 

pianopuffer

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jpm - no, but I was including shipping in the orders. They still weren't cheap but I figured I was helping out the members.

 

btp79

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jpm - no, but I was including shipping in the orders. They still weren't cheap but I figured I was helping out the members.
You also said you misjudged the market and dropped your price $10 per tin....

 

cosmicfolklore

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If you are willing to pay more money, why not just buy from the scalpers? Let those of us who have developed relationships with out B&Ms and have done the work alone.

 

eggrollpiper

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Yes, in NY because the tax is so high the bags go for minimum $70, at least at the one store in the entire county and next county that has them..

 

tkcolo

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Beafeater33 that is harsh. I don't agree with OP, but I understand his logic. The general resale market is crazy for many blends. I wonder why the manufacturer hasn't capitalized on it. We complain about how the hobby is dying, stores are closing, framers are switching crops and producers are quitting. Yet I still buy online for $2/oz instead of paying $7/oz at a B&M. I justify it because my "local" B&M is 3 hours away, but I am part of the problem. Cigar guys pay 6 times what we do for similar quality.
When I dipped, I spent $2000/yr on Copenhagen. I spent a fair amount building a cellar and a pipe collection, but I only really smoke $200/yr in tobacco. I can see why parts of the supply chain are leaving. I'd love to grow it myself, but if I had to make a living at growing and selling quality pipe tobacco, my end price would have to be higher than $2/oz.
As an ag producer, we sell a lot of finished steers, hogs and sheep directly to individual buyers. (We take them to the local butcher and coordinate the delivery of the meat.) Buyers get a far superior product, much, much cheaper than buying grocery store meat. It's not even close. And we make a lot more than just selling to a feedlot, like normal producers. The markup from middle men is crazy. I'd rather not ever sell a steer to a feedlot again. It holds for tobacco too.
You guys that have good B&M's, been around long enough to know affordable Esoterica, or have good cellars are in a different place than OP. Someone sell that man some Esoterica!

 
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