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damacene

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 31, 2022
267
1,260
Los Angeles, CA
Thought I would add my own testimonial. I smoked some of the new stuff today and yup .. it is vile. I hope the aromatic isn't ruined as well.
 
Mar 13, 2020
2,991
27,688
missouri
I just had a bowl of Granger and it's still good, significantly better than SWR...which is weird because I thought they were basically the same blend with different packaging.
I've had the pleasure of only smoking one pouch of the old production SWR. What they have on the market now is nowhere close to what it was.

Granger is a good smoke but I never thought it was similar to SWR. Well, maybe similar that they're both OTC blends. I don't have the most refined palate though, so there's that.
 

rakovsky

Can't Leave
Nov 28, 2024
452
511
I had a sample from a batch of 2021 SWR. It had vinegar note at the start of the bowl but was gone afterwards from the bowl. Overall it was a good blend and the batch was overall fine.
 

ChubbyOldHiker

Might Stick Around
Jan 29, 2025
58
144
Kenner, LA
I'm still working on my small pouch of dried out SWR from 2024. Still vinegary at the start but definitely smokeable, and is quite nice once the vinegar dies down. I'll smoke it all, definitely. Not sure I'll buy it again because I seem to be settling on heavier blends but I'll never let a flake go to waste!
 
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towhee89

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 28, 2021
634
4,852
Morganton, North Carolina
My experience with SWR has been interesting. When I started Piping in 2023 I got 2 pouches made in 2021, and they were fine. Not a whiff of vinegar. Fast forward to last year, went to the same brick and mortar store and got a pouch, and it has the exact same code as the ones I got in 2023 (I kept those pouches) Opened it up and it was obviously way more dried than it was supposed to be, and reeked of vinegar. Tasted it too. I've had it airing out for close to a year now in a non airtight jar but it still smells of vinegar. I may try to smoke a bowl now but I don't think there's any saving it.

Makes no sense, but I won't be buying it again. A local grocer still has 3 of so USA made Tucker GA 14oz tubs for $40 or so, have been meaning to buy one.
 
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towhee89

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 28, 2021
634
4,852
Morganton, North Carolina
If it were me, I'd buy all three, but that's just me, I really enjoy the old SRW. Obviously not a hot seller at your grocery.
I might just do that, I am worried they'll get rid of the pipe tobacco, they did that at the one closest to me. They had introduced self checkouts and only now have a small selection of dip cigs and cigars, and no more pipe tobacco or dry snuff.
 

Searock Fan

Lifer
Oct 22, 2021
2,547
7,153
Southern U.S.A.
My experience with SWR has been interesting. When I started Piping in 2023 I got 2 pouches made in 2021, and they were fine. Not a whiff of vinegar. Fast forward to last year, went to the same brick and mortar store and got a pouch, and it has the exact same code as the ones I got in 2023 (I kept those pouches) Opened it up and it was obviously way more dried than it was supposed to be, and reeked of vinegar. Tasted it too. I've had it airing out for close to a year now in a non airtight jar but it still smells of vinegar. I may try to smoke a bowl now but I don't think there's any saving it.

Makes no sense, but I won't be buying it again. A local grocer still has 3 of so USA made Tucker GA 14oz tubs for $40 or so, have been meaning to buy one.
Just a thought....You might try buying all 3 for $100. puffy
 

towhee89

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 28, 2021
634
4,852
Morganton, North Carolina
Just cracked a pouch, I do smell vinegar, not promising....we will see how it smokes. The Aromatic smells great, like it should...oatmeal raisin cookies.

Oh. I went back to that Food Lion, and the old 14oz SWR was gone. Shoulda bought it when I could. They moved the tobacco display and all the pipe tobacco I guess they tossed or pulled.

Edit . Just fired a bowl and it's pure white vinegar. Absolute garbage. Good thing this was free. I'm not sure what stg is doing but this should be taken off the market.
 
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Hutch Piper

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 12, 2022
694
4,967
Charlotte, NC
I raised the SWR vinegar complaint to STG a couple weeks ago and received a canned corporate response. I mentioned it to Leonard W. (STG) when he was on these Forums to explain the Sutliff debacle and he said he was aware of the complaints and had referred the matter to their QC team.
 

towhee89

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 28, 2021
634
4,852
Morganton, North Carolina
I raised the SWR vinegar complaint to STG a couple weeks ago and received a canned corporate response. I mentioned it to Leonard W. (STG) when he was on these Forums to explain the Sutliff debacle and he said he was aware of the complaints and had referred the matter to their QC team.
Good job. Thank you for that. It really boggles my mind how bad it is. It's not just a hint of vinegar, it's an absolute bath that burns the nostrils. I'm not one to waste tobacco but I had to toss the bowl pack.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,516
Humansville Missouri
It cost a whole lot of money to set up a factory in Denmark to produce SWR.

Scandinavian didn’t become the largest pipe tobacco maker on earth by stupidity. They can smell the vinegar.

They can’t legally change the pre 2007 formula, without trouble with the FDA.


It’s better. They’ve aged the tobaccos until they fermented more. Like the original process called for.

What else could explain it?
 
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Piping Abe

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 27, 2021
700
1,979
North Dakota, USA
It cost a whole lot of money to set up a factory in Denmark to produce SWR.

Scandinavian didn’t become the largest pipe tobacco maker on earth by stupidity. They can smell the vinegar.

They can’t legally change the pre 2007 formula, without trouble with the FDA.


It’s better. They’ve aged the tobaccos until they fermented more. Like the original process called for.

What else could explain it?
This is the worst take you’ve ever had. They may not have changed the formula, but they certainly could screw it up easily by trying to cut corners.