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Briarcutter

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Aug 17, 2023
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I sent this today to:
Got the email address off STG website.

torben.sand@st-group.com


Dear Sir,
I have been a loyal smoker of Sir Walter Raleigh regular for many years. I still have some USA made product but wanted to renew my supply. I have heard from a close friend when he opened the 7ounce tin a very strong and nose burning smell of vinegar was present. He had three canisters all the same, un-smokable to him. I asked the question on a pipe forum about heavy, strong vinegar smell and if anyone has noticed it in the STG version. A lot of complaints have come back confirming the strong, overwhelming smell and taste of vinegar. Is this the current method of production? If so, I'm afraid I'll have to find another brand of tobacco as this is unacceptable and was never present in the USA made product.
Sincerely,
 
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Skippy B. Coyote

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Jun 19, 2023
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I've got a pouch of Sir Walter Raleigh regular on the way from SmokingPipes that should be here by the end of the week, so I'll report back when it arrives as to whether or not I got a vinegar bombed pouch. I'm hoping I'll get a good batch without the vinegar, but after reading all the reports around here regarding the current production SWR I'm not overly optimistic.
 

Skippy B. Coyote

Can't Leave
Jun 19, 2023
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St. Paul, MN
Whelp, I got my pouch of Sir Walter Raleigh regular in the mail from SmokingPipes this afternoon, cracked it open, and gave it a sniff. Now I'm not sure exactly what Sir Walter Raleigh is supposed to smell like, having never had it before, but this tobacco smells like it was soaked in enough vinegar that you could dip a hushpuppy in it. There is a tiny bit of chocolate aroma as well, but it's about 95% straight vinegar for the tin note.

It certainly doesn't smell like something I'd want to put in a pipe and smoke, but I'll be brave and give it a try later tonight or tomorrow to see how much of the pungent vinegar aroma comes through in the flavor when smoked. If you don't hear back from me afterwards then assume I have met the fate of many a king's royal food tasters. 🤢
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
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Well, at least I got a response. Unfortunately, it was that, since I live in Canada, I should contact the Canadian branch of STG. However, since the Canadian branch of STG doesn't import SWR, I can guess what the response would be.

Over to a willing US consumer 🤞🤞!
The stuff is made in DK, they are the ones to answer the inquiry. Unless they don’t care about their customers.
 

grimpeur

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 30, 2015
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Toronto, ON, Canada
The stuff is made in DK, they are the ones to answer the inquiry. Unless they don’t care about their customers.
I thought my question was sent to DK, I could be wrong. I'm thinking about sending an email to Smoking Pipes; obviously it's not their fault, but a big reseller might have a little more sway when dealing with a big company like STG.
 

Briarcutter

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Aug 17, 2023
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Well, I sent a email to DK from STG website on Monday, no response yet. I think we should also send complaints to where we purchase it, maybe they could assist.
 
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MidTNPiper

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Jul 6, 2023
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Nashville, TN
Well, I sent a email to DK from STG website on Monday, no response yet. I think we should also send complaints to where we purchase it, maybe they could assist.
Same here. Think I send one in on the report an issue via contact us a day after you…nothing yet.

I typically leave my open tubs with the foil cover (removed) but laying on top of the tobacco with the clear plastic cap on. Will see what ends us happening in a few weeks. But man, fresh…it’s rough…
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
12,102
17,674
SE PA USA
I thought my question was sent to DK, I could be wrong. I'm thinking about sending an email to Smoking Pipes; obviously it's not their fault, but a big reseller might have a little more sway when dealing with a big company like STG.
My point is that you sent your inquiry to the right place, but they refused to answer you. My respnse would be tell them that if they really don’t give a rat’s ass about their customers, then you’ll buy from a company that is more responsive.
 

jdlander

Lurker
Jul 6, 2024
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Salem, OR
I typically leave my open tubs with the foil cover (removed) but laying on top of the tobacco with the clear plastic cap on. Will see what ends us happening in a few weeks. But man, fresh…it’s rough…
Is it any better now?

I just opened a pouch of SWR and my eyes started watering from the overwhelming vinegar and ammonia smell... I'm thinking of cellaring it for a while to see if it helps.
 

Joe H

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May 22, 2024
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Alaska
For what it's worth, I ordered a pouch of SWR from Smoking Pipes at the end of May and received it in early June (2024). It smells nothing like vinegar, just an average mild OTC burley with a mild, sweet aromatic topping. I'd probably see about returning it if it smells as you describe. My dad used to smoke this and there is no way he would have ever aged an OTC blend just so he could tolerate the smell. Hopefully you get some explanation as to what happened to your orders.