Danish Sir Walter Raleigh

[grimpeur]

I've (lots) of Granger in the tub, and SWR pouches: they're both great. Granger is improved, SWR is what it always was. There are a number of burley blends by both Mac Baren and STG that are good 'uns; wish Singleton flake was available here. That is to say: they know stuff.

I have to say though, whoever changed the dog on the tin of Granger to a non-pointing dog is a dolt...posed right over the motto of "a pointer on fine tobacco". Smh.

Regarding my previous assertion that all was well with SWR, I was wrong, wrong, wrong!

My previous purchases of the blend made in Denmark were indeed fine; aside from the massive boost in price, no complaints.

Today, I received a 7oz can, opened it as soon as I got it, and got punched in the face by a vinegar fist! It's like Mike and Mary O'Neil moved to Denmark and changed their last name to Ø'Neil...strong stuff. Smoking it was okay, but there was a vinegar note lurking in the background. Hopefully, whatever it is (a different burley?) will flash off. But mark me down as disappointed. SWR is striken from my list of desirable OTC blends, leaving Granger; I hope they leave it alone.

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

I recently purchased a 7 oz. can of SWR. I assume it was the Danish version. I opened it and stuck my sniffer in expecting anise and chocolate but got hit with sinus stinging, eye watering vinegar! My wife has a very good sense of smell. She could smell vinegar from the other side of the room. I let it air out for a day and it still had an overbearing vinegar smell. The vinegar covered up all tobacco aroma. I tossed it.

 

[Piping Abe]

Everyone is upset that Mclelland is back

 

[huntertrw]

Danish SWR: Smells Weally Rotten...

 

[Searock Fan]

 

[Briarcutter]

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[Searock Fan]

Send this photo to STG!

Excuse my slowness, but who is STG?

 

[grimpeur]

Excuse my slowness, but who is STG?

Scandinavian Tobacco Group; the party responsible for this debacle.

 

[woodsroad]

Excuse my slowness, but who is STG?

It’s like an STD, but even more so.

 

[MidTNPiper]

Im nearing the end of a Granger tub, cracked open my first new production SWR last night. Confirming vinegar bomb.

I keep my otc’s out in the barn so ambient temps in Tennessee. Will see how it ages after a few months. Granger always improves when some of the “stuff” flashes off, hopefully the same here w/ Sir Walter. I did catch that vinegar flavor the first 1/3 of the bowl or so, but by the end…it tasted just like regular SWR.

 

[PipeIT]

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Look out @TheIronMonkey looks like you have some Art Competition! LOL

P.S. @Searock Fan that’s a good one!

 

[TheIronMonkey]

I first heard about this in November in this thread:

Is Customer Service a Thing of the Past? :: Pipe Tobacconists - B&M's and Internet Retailers

So I just received a small order from WV Smokeshop with a couple ounces of LL7, some Sutliff Mocha Strips..and a 1 1/2 oz. package of Sir Walter Raleigh Regular...upon opening the pouch of SWR, the vinegar pouch smell was OVERWHELMIMNG!! and trying to smoke it was pointless...it was sour and...

pipesmagazine.com

This seems much more widespread an issue than before.

 

[sablebrush52]

Scandinavian Tobacco Group; the party responsible for this debacle.

Also, the McDonalds of the tobacco world.

 

[grimpeur]

Also, the McDonalds of the tobacco world.

That might be a little cruel. After all, they do make Revor plug, and some really great MOB offerings available in Denmark. Or does that make it worse? They can do great things, they choose not to.

Slightly more on topic: Thursday I sent them an email about this issue. I wonder if there will be a response?

 

[sablebrush52]

That might be a little cruel. After all, they do make Revor plug, and some really great MOB offerings available in Denmark. Or does that make it worse? They can do great things, they choose not to.

Slightly more on topic: Thursday I sent them an email about this issue. I wonder if there will be a response?

My impression is that they are more focused on their cigar business than pipe tobaccos. Your observation that they can do great things but choose not to is fair and accurate.

 

[Briarcutter]

Thursday I sent them an email about this issue. I wonder if there will be a response

I'd be interested in their response, please share.

 

[MidTNPiper]

Agreed, please pass along the response.

Did a little research here: the last two pouches i had were april of 2022…no off flavors. Now, unfortunately, ive got 6 tubs stashed away all made in march of 2023. The first one has this vinegar flavor. What’s the chances the other will NOT have it, id say slim…i may be out of luck here.

I intentionally keep the otcs outside, due to their long shelf life. Maybe hoppin the fence back to Granger, lol…

I'd be interested in their response, please share.

 

[grimpeur]

Well, at least I got a response. Unfortunately, it was that, since I live in Canada, I should contact the Canadian branch of STG. However, since the Canadian branch of STG doesn't import SWR, I can guess what the response would be.

Over to a willing US consumer !

 

[Briarcutter]

Well, at least I got a response. Unfortunately, it was that, since I live in Canada, I should contact the Canadian branch of STG. However, since the Canadian branch of STG doesn't import SWR, I can guess what the response would be.

Over to a willing US consumer !

Thank you for your efforts! Email? I'd contact them but I really don't have any first hand experience, so far just word of mouth from what I've heard. I'm still smoking the made in USA version. I think I should anyway, say something like "I'm very hesitant purchasing more considering the complaints I've heard so far."

 

[MidTNPiper]

Thank you for your efforts! Email? I'd contact them but I really don't have any first hand experience, so far just word of mouth from what I've heard. I'm still smoking the made in USA version. I think I should anyway, say something like "I'm very hesitant purchasing more considering the complaints I've heard so far."

I just submitted something on the contact us. We’ll see if they get back…