No matter the political BS, think about the corporations and insurance companies. Was picked for a random drug test and sure enough they check for nicotine. I wonder if they check the pee in the cup to determine if I had sex last night too.
corporations drug screening for nicotine.
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Distressing? In what way? One usually agrees to such when accepting employment. If one can't abide the rules then one should seek employment with an entity that doesn't not have such rules or labor agreement.
Moses: If that's not true, you'd most likely be hunting for work else where.
Moses: If that's not true, you'd most likely be hunting for work else where.
Dumb question: How long does nicotine stay in the body (or bodily fluids) at a detectable level, i.e. what is the half-life? I don't have a dog in the fight but just curious.
Don't have a problem with a drug test I am a programmer at a large insurance company. Wonder if soon they will be sending auditors to my home searching for fire arms, pressing my nuts to see if I am breeding, or checking my colon for fiber in take. I am after all nothing more than a human resource. And once they use that up, they will be looking for souls. It's the cost of Anglo civilization :p
Buster, that is classic, and brilliant.
Wish I had thought of it.
I wonder if they pad you down before the test.
Personally, I think this is outrageous. I understand 29 states have passed laws prohibiting it, and the other 21 should follow suit. Lobby your representative.
Wish I had thought of it.
I wonder if they pad you down before the test.
Personally, I think this is outrageous. I understand 29 states have passed laws prohibiting it, and the other 21 should follow suit. Lobby your representative.
My work randomly screens for illegal drugs. That was a known condition for initial and continued employment. One that I accept.
Screening for a legal substance, like nicotine is dubious, because the test doesn't know where the nicotine is from. I assume they are screening for smoking cigarettes and assuming inhalation and we all know that puffing on pipes or cigars, chewing, or gum represents a different level of risk.
Screening for a legal substance, like nicotine is dubious, because the test doesn't know where the nicotine is from. I assume they are screening for smoking cigarettes and assuming inhalation and we all know that puffing on pipes or cigars, chewing, or gum represents a different level of risk.
Wondering if any company also screens in a helpful manner, i.e., for markers that might indicate a medical condition that when caught might save a life or two.
Being retired, the only entity interested in my urine is my Labrador. He thinks it's extraordinary, so much so that it inspires him to piss on top of it.
Being retired, the only entity interested in my urine is my Labrador. He thinks it's extraordinary, so much so that it inspires him to piss on top of it.
Is there a policy against smoking at your job? Seems odd they would test for that unless there was some reason you were not allowed to or that they would be penalizing you on insurance rates.
Along comes me with the Medicinal Tobacco to treat my Bipolar I Disorder. Better believe I would find a way to be stubborn about it. Pro choice to smoke way too much. Wonder how long the 9 bowls of tobacco and 12 cigarettes I smoked yesterday stay in my system lol. I understand the reasons.....but the logic is flawed.
@gloucesterman - Another facet of the database: When medical people ask me if I smoke, I answer “no” because they are really asking, “Do you inhale a substance that is made from 4,000 chemicals, including 43 known carcinogenic compounds and 400 other toxins, including formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and DDT?”
“No, I do not.”
Source: http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/whatsinit.htm
“No, I do not.”
Source: http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/whatsinit.htm
Corporations are private property and therefore when you sign a contract with them for employment, you do so on their terms. It's not your job, it belongs to the business, Nicotine test may not be smart business practice, I wouldn't do that to my employees.
Sorry bigpond, nobody said anything about fiefdom, it's a popular theory socialist use to disrupt private property rights. How about I come to your house smoke pot in your living room, and tell you it's my civil right to do so. Like hell that would happen, big pond you would invoke your proivate property rights. That's what businesses are doing, invoking their private property rights. Smoking isn't a civil right, it's a right that you practice on your time.
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