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Worknman

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Sep 23, 2019
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C&D knows what they're doing. In fact they're one of the only blenders right now that are stirring the pot and doing different things, which they've figured out is the best way to pay the bills. Everyone else is just resting on their laurels.
 

pip01

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If you didn't get any Sun Bear, you only have yourself to blame. Sorry. I could also make an argument that it is more important to satisfy the "big" customers. I'm guessing pipe tobacco follows the 80 20 rule where 20% of the customers represent 80% of the business. C&D runs a business, it's not a charitable organization.
They would make more money if they sold by 2 oz tins. So from a biz perspective its pretty dumb. What small batch didn't eventually out? I got my Sun Bear bro and every other small batch I wanted. I know how the play game as good as anyone else. Yeah would I have like to try this one? Sure. But I simply don't want a pound. It's just to much for me to go through. I'm sure there are alot of guys in the same boat as me. That's it.
 
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kschatey

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Oct 16, 2019
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They would make more money if they sold by 2 oz tins. So from a biz perspective its pretty dumb. What small batch didn't eventually out? I got my Sun Bear bro and every other small batch I wanted. I know how the play game as good as anyone else. Yeah would I have like to try this one? Sure. But I simply don't want a pound. It's just to much for me to go through. I'm sure there are alot of guys in the same boat as me. That's it.
Would they? More time, more packaging, etc. Regardless, they set the wholesale price to whatever they want it to be. I'm not for or against C&D, this blend, or their marketing, but they clearly understand the market in general and their business in particular.
 
Jun 23, 2019
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They would make more money if they sold by 2 oz tins. So from a biz perspective its pretty dumb. What small batch didn't eventually out? I got my Sun Bear bro and every other small batch I wanted. I know how the play game as good as anyone else. Yeah would I have like to try this one? Sure. But I simply don't want a pound. It's just to much for me to go through. I'm sure there are alot of guys in the same boat as me. That's it.

That's your best hypothesis, I'm guessing C&D has a little bit more information on how well and to what capacity their last couple of small batches should. And now they're giving the 1lb bulk a first go round. Sure, it *might* not sell better than tins but it'll be valuable to find out, if only to refine your marketing strategy moving forward.
 
Jan 28, 2018
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They would make more money if they sold by 2 oz tins. So from a biz perspective its pretty dumb. What small batch didn't eventually out? I got my Sun Bear bro and every other small batch I wanted. I know how the play game as good as anyone else. Yeah would I have like to try this one? Sure. But I simply don't want a pound. It's just to much for me to go through. I'm sure there are alot of guys in the same boat as me. That's it.
I think C&D should hire you to lead them down the path of enlightenment.
 

kschatey

Lifer
Oct 16, 2019
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I'm genuinely fascinated by the social experiment that this release is turning out to be. So much discussion about the format and so little about the actual product qualities since it's not yet available. I wasn't even interested in buying any of this because I am set with the stuff that I already have, but it's become such a polarizing blend already that I just want a brick of pipe tobacco release history dammit! Maybe it will become like that tin of amazing fruitcake that just gets moved and passed around since nobody is willing to actually enjoy it. In however many years it in takes tobacco to become unavailable my kid's kid can sell it to a museum and live happily ever after from the proceeds. But probably not due to fire, flood, or outright ban of selling tobacco period. Maybe the sticker will still be worth something...
 

renfield

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Oct 16, 2011
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I was interested until I saw in Jim’s review that the Katsuri is up front. I enjoy it as a background note only.

More for y’all. Enjoy.
 
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kschatey

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Oct 16, 2019
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I was interested until I saw in Jim’s review that the Kasturi is up front. I enjoy it as a background note only.

More for y’all. Enjoy.
I'm super curious about the Kasturi as I haven't had it before. As you said, Jim's review put it up front, but then the copy seemed to downplay it's role. So... Dunno.
 
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JimInks

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I was interested until I saw in Jim’s review that the Katsuri is up front. I enjoy it as a background note only.

More for y’all. Enjoy.
It does not dominate, and the creamy sugar from the black cavendish tames most of its rough edges, and a moderate amount of the floralness. The Virginias are important supporting players, more so than in other blends with this varietal. I'd say Katsuri has less impact here than in any other blend that showcases it.
 

Tbaggins

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Oct 15, 2021
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It’s a no for me dawg. Not gonna invest in a pound of some blend I’ve never tried before. Let alone it’s C&D who are masters of marketing. They have a few stand outs, but I can’t see such an investment when all they do is pump out the same blend with a slight tweak and re-lable.