It's called small batch for a reason with small being the key word. Anyone that really wanted any of the small batches should have gotten some, they weren't sold out in the first hour. Anyone that didn't want it enough to put in a little extra effort didn't want it enough to justify complaining IMHO. Many companies do small batches or limited edition offerings where every customer would not be able to purchase any.
Definitely my thoughts as well, but was probably something at least considered at some point since this particular offering is part of their Small Batch releases. Regardless, a vacuum packed brick in a fancy wrap is nice and economical.
If you didn't get any Sun Bear, you only have yourself to blame. Sorry. I could also make an argument that it is more important to satisfy the "big" customers. I'm guessing pipe tobacco follows the 80 20 rule where 20% of the customers represent 80% of the business. C&D runs a business, it's not a charitable organization.
I have to respectfully disagree. In fact, I'd say in the past three years, C&D's marketing strategy has been significantly superior to anyone else in the industry. Given the potential deeming legislation, I think the small batch strategy has been brilliant. It draws attention to the brand and creates some excitement while alleviating any potential issues with legislation. Doesn't satisfy everyone? Tell me something that does.
Thanks for an honest assessment. There will certainly be those third party guys that buy as much as they can and will turn around and sell it in small increments.
No way I buy a pound of something I've never had. Hell I dont even want to buy 2oz if I've never had tbh.
This was why I asked my follow up question to that statement as well. Even the Sun Bear Black Locust release last year seemed more available than the Sun Bear 2019 release, although in both cases I could have purchased far more than I did from multiple locations at multiple release times. That doesn't even include B&M options. I decided ow much I wanted, got it, and that was it. I completely passed on the Eight State and other Small Batch releases and later decided that I wanted a couple tins of Eight State and bought them online from P&C during another if their delayed releases. There were other Small Batches also still available after the fact that I opted out of at the time as well. To @hoosierpipeguy 's point though, if somebody wants any of these releases, it's not impossible to get them, but it may take *some* effort as they aren't just going to automatically show up in the mailbox through some magical intervention. This is not to say that I have been able to acquire every blend that I've ever wanted to try. A couple years ago I got lucky on getting a couple Esoterica offerings (Margate and Peacehaven, others sold out too fast), but others have been more elusive and that's okay. I can get them if I put in more effort and/or money, but this is not something that I am loosing any sleep over. I have plenty of awesome tobacco already and sometimes I just don't want to play the game and that's just fine with me. Maybe part of this is because I already got over all of this craziness during my rare beer trading and hunting days even before that entire thing got even more insane like it is today...
Another option is "going in" on a pound with others.
It's easy enough to stuff the whole thing in a large mylar bag.
Marketing Blunder…yeah I guess C&D is gonna have a real hard time selling these off.? I mean we are doing a good bit of marketing for them I’d say & haven’t shut up about this business fiasco from the jump. And, because these are in limited supply…I’m gonna say they’ll sell like ?…gone in 60 minutes I should think. ?
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Actually marketing at its finest. It engenders a sense of lessened availability and drives sells even higher. Plus a normal tinned small batch would be around $96 to get a pound of it when in tins. This release triggers the "I'm getting a deal!" response. I've hit my tobacco limit so none for me.
It will to some extent because the buyer is going to have to trust the seller to actually be shipping the small batch and not some similar Sutliff bulk blend. No different than someone selling jars of Penzance. How would an inexperienced buyer know it was Dreams of Kadath or Quiet Nights instead of Penzance?
Hey, I bought some stuff from you I'd never tried - glad I did, btw!
(Of course, being relatively new to it, I must experiment)!
Yeah, someone that’d never had Penzance could easily fall for a Quiet Nights substitute.
️Not worth the time and effort to do that in my opinion giving the cost of shipping materials and shipping itself these days. All the more power to them!
Certainly not worth it to me but none of what they do is worth it to me for that matter. I assume they would simply break it up and put it in mylar or zip locks to ship to their customers. Most B&M's sell their bulk blends in zip locks. I'm confident there will be people offering it in 2 or 4 ounce increments at $10 an ounce plus shipping. I'm equally confident there will be eager buyers. I would even get there will be people who will spend $60 on 8 ounces or less which seems insane when they could buy 16 for $60 upfront.
