No, but in a thread about something I think is silly, like aliens, I made a coupe of posts. You sure do seem to be so passionate about this topic that you can't seem to leave it be.
Climate Change and Its Impact on Tobacco Quality
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That's a pretty bold statement..........................................
I also want to thank the OP for letting us know that Plants don’t like drought.
Never???? Maybe you meant in recent (your lifetime) history.
Do you know what the weather conditions were in 1827?........ 1743?...........1612?.............10,000 years ago?
Not trying to be a smartass, but I really hate the word "never", as it's usually not ever correctly used.
Just one of my pet peeves...........
We just had 2-3 months of draught in my part of CT, I can only imagine how the remaining tobacco farmers in the state were effected. Granted they are more north and east of me, so maybe they got some rain when we didnt but in my part of the state (southwest) we had no rain.
I'm a professional gardener and it was a really rough time for my clients gardens that weren't on irrigation.
I'm a professional gardener and it was a really rough time for my clients gardens that weren't on irrigation.
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This thread is about climate change.
I see now that discussion is not the point though... Agree that there's climate change or get the hell out, is the point.
I'll let yall agree.
It's just pretty obvious who among us doesn't work in an industry where the weather matters.
The thing is I agree with you guys. It's just that in your minds, "climate change" means man made climate change that leads to someone trying to sell you an electric car. I do not think man has done this. I do not think electric cars are viable at all, as a fix. I am not selling light bulbs or any of that. I just acknowledge that the climate is changing. And, I think it's silly to think that it isn't. It has always been changing.
Maybe the creek did dry up in the 1800 or 1700's, but we had changes back then too.
What is it that makes people so crazy when they hear climate change?
I at least wait till someone starts in on LED bulbs and EVs before I smack them upside the head with logic, ha ha.
Moot point, because I have already said that climate is always changing, not that all of this is totally new and caused by man.
The thing is I agree with you guys. It's just that in your minds, "climate change" means man made climate change that leads to someone trying to sell you an electric car. I do not think man has done this. I do not think electric cars are viable at all, as a fix. I am not selling light bulbs or any of that. I just acknowledge that the climate is changing. And, I think it's silly to think that it isn't. It has always been changing.
Maybe the creek did dry up in the 1800 or 1700's, but we had changes back then too.
What is it that makes people so crazy when they hear climate change?
I at least wait till someone starts in on LED bulbs and EVs before I smack them upside the head with logic, ha ha.
The electric car thing is WILD to me. The amount of mining for the materials that go into those batteries is insane.
And, the amount of oil that it takes to produce it. If they stopped oil production tomorrow, there would never be any more EVs for millionaires to drive around in.
That, and they will most likely make them leased, and never completely owned by the driver... which pisses me off. If I want to chop the top off and drive it with no doors, I want to be able to do that. I will never have a leased or rented object in my driveway.
edit: not to mention you'd be driving around in a bomb. It doesn't take that much to set one of those batteries off, and they are loaded with them. It'd be safer to drive a hydrogen car, ha ha.
There are a lot of factors involved, not the least of which is a shrinking market. Weather certainly plays a part, with the increasing amount of extreme weather events. Crops like the burley grown in St James Parrish that's used to make Perique are affected by floods, drought, and unusual temperature patterns.
But there's also been a shift away from growing tobacco since subsidies were ended around 2016. Farmers have been turning to less labor intensive and more profitable crops. In addition, harvesting and processing of tobacco have been streamlined to reduce costs, which also affects the quality of the result.
From what I've been tasting, quality has taken a serious hit since the end of subsidies. But, there's still very good tobacco being grown in parts of the world where the climate and economics still favor delivering a quality result.
About the Balkan region.................
Because this topic, like a great deal of many others, has been co-opted by bad faith actors in the mass media and on social media to act as a marker for some ridiculous political and cultural binary. So, instead of people addressing the topic on its own merits, they are instead primed to treat it as a signifier of whatever tribe they are part of.
I'm not expert on climatology or tobacco farming, but it does baffle me that people can believe that our species has zero or very little impact on our environment. At the very least, it seems likely to me that our species is at least exacerbating certain negative climate trends.
But again, I am not well versed in these matters, so I will say no more on it.
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That's a damned wide brush you're painting with.
"Coleman held a bachelor's degree in journalism and stated in interviews that he has not conducted any scientific research in the area of climate change."I'm saying that those saying it is, don't know that it is.
They call names. They make false claims, and call them facts.
I personally don't believe the climate is changing. I wouldn't bullshit myself or you and say I could prove that it's not changing. My beliefs are my own, and yours are yours... But that's all they are on something like this.
Meteorologist (who does not believe in climate change) and founder of the weather channel:
Climate Change??? Founder of the weather channel John Coleman explains
interesting view from the founder of the weather channel - John Colemanrumble.com
The idea that the current era of human civilisation could completely change as much of the face of the earth as it has, could destroy so many of the natural ecosystems that form the very basis for the regulation of our climate, and not have any impact, is one of willful ignorance. Every American, not just on this thread, but in the country - and indeed many of us in the rest of the world - would do well to read the works of one of your greatest political and ecological thinkers, Murray Bookchin. Because you're right, simply replacing the combustion engine with batteries that depend on the same extractive processes that have led to ecological devastation in the first place isn't the answer, it's merely the illusion of an answer that's convenient to liberal capitalism. Now I know a lot of the conservatives on this forum will baulk at the idea of listening to a lefty, so the video I've linked below is a lecture he gave that also gives short shrift to a lot of the ideas that have come to dominate the traditional left (by which I do not mean liberalism, but socialism and the workers' movement as a whole) and poses the beginnings of an answer to a new way forward. This man was a visionary, and I urge you to put your political biases aside for long enough to listen critically to what he has to say before you dismiss him. Right, contribution made, I shan't hang about on this thread any longer for fear of breaking the "no politics except tobacco politics" rule even more than this post already does.
Climate change affecting tobacco crops? I doubt it. Government regulations…yes. Climate has always changed, this is nothing new or cow poop and or us related. The government wants you to believe that the climate is in a chaotic state to sell you on more of their great ideas and or a stupid car.
I think, frankly, that profit margins have had more to do with the decline in quality of our tobaccos in the near term than changes in rainfall. The pursuit of cheaper Brazilian Virginias is more a matter of finance, and decisions made by people who value profit over quality (and perhaps don't even realize that some Virginias are vastly better than others).
the decline of quality in pursuit of profit and the degradation of the environment by a few enormous monopolies are inherently linked, it's that link that's a taboo to criticise among conservatives and liberals alike
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