**CHALLENGE** Building a cellar of quality bulk tobaccos for $250.

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JRW11b

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I would wait for a 15% off c&d bulk sale and load the fuckin’ boat with Pegasus, Haunted Bookshop, Poplar Camp, Yorktown, Bayou Morning, and Virginia Flake.
As I'm reading this, I am nearing the end of a bowl of pegasus , wishing that i would have bought more than a couple ounces of it. It is fantastic. Haunted bookshop and Bayou Morning have me intrigued...
 
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Scottmi

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if to build a cellar, i'm interpreting as buying a few bulk bags to jar up.. these can (and will end up) keep for years as they age and your cellar matures. Pick and choose for what appeals with these better value options:

1 lb Sutliff Virginia Slices 507C or Newminster 400
1.5 lb Stokkebye Luxury Twist Flake
1 lb Arango Super Balkan
1 lb MB HH Pure Virginia
250g Hamborger Veermaster
1 lb Sutliff Match Victorian (VaPer) or Stokkebye Navy Flake (VaPer)
1 lb Sutliff Match 20 My Mixture 965 (scottish)
4 oz each of any number of C&D bulk
1 lb Sutliff VooDoo Queen
bag Daughter & Ryan Three Sails
variety of 1 or 2 oz samples from Peretti to inform future bulk purchases ;-)

this is fun. easy to spend $250!
 
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JRW11b

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 18, 2023
149
545
if to build a cellar, i'm interpreting as buying a few bulk bags to jar up.. these can (and will end up) keep for years as they age and your cellar matures. Pick and choose for what appeals with these better value options:

1 lb Sutliff Virginia Slices 507C or Newminster 400
1.5 lb Stokkebye Luxury Twist Flake
1 lb Arango Super Balkan
1 lb MB HH Pure Virginia
250g Hamborger Veermaster
1 lb Sutliff Match Victorian (VaPer) or Stokkebye Navy Flake (VaPer)
1 lb Sutliff Match 20 My Mixture 965 (scottish)
4 oz each of any number of C&D bulk
1 lb Sutliff VooDoo Queen
bag Daughter & Ryan Three Sails
variety of 1 or 2 oz samples from Peretti to inform future bulk purchases ;-)

this is fun. easy to spend $250!
100% this. Thank you. A few of these I have, and the others you have recommended, I will definitely be considering. I appreciate the reply. Thanks again.
 
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The Clay King

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Sutliff matches offer pretty good bang for the buck. Math Victorian, Troost match Revelation Match are favorites. C&D Yorktown is pretty good. Luxury Bullseye Flake is very good after about a 4 year wait.
@sablebrush52 I like the Yorktown especially for the Redcoats & Revolutionaries events. This is the baccy I was smoking in my clay pipe when the blacksmith lit it with an ember form his forge!
@simong says I should be smoking SG Cannon Plug at the Sealed Knot events as it's said to date back to the civil war era (1640s).
My preference is for Virginia / Cavendish blends in my clay pipes.
SG Black Forest is the commercial baccy most like my imagined "Clay King" clay pipe blend.
 
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Jul 26, 2021
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To get the most bang for your buck in building a cellar, buy bulk tobacco when it goes on sale (like at 15% off or better). With a $250 limit, you're looking at about 10 to 15 pounds at best (unless you buy a cellar "base" from another person, which has pros and cons).

I suggest waiting for the sale, then buying 1 ounce samples to see what blends you like. Once you gauge your tastes, bulk up at the next sale.

Many great bulk options have been suggested. If you know your likes, then focus on those with a few alternatives for a change of pace. For example, I've drifted away from Latakia but have a pound of Byzantium that scratches the itch.

My bulk staples include:

English - Balkan Supreme, Byzantium
Burley - Cube Cut Burley, Half and Half
Aromatic - 1-Q, Nutty Irishman
Virginia - Virginia Slices, Superior Navy Flake
Orientals - Oriental Silk
Deertounge - Crooner
 

The Clay King

(Formerly HalfDan)
Oct 2, 2018
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To get the most bang for your buck in building a cellar, buy bulk tobacco when it goes on sale (like at 15% off or better). With a $250 limit, you're looking at about 10 to 15 pounds at best (unless you buy a cellar "base" from another person, which has pros and cons).

I suggest waiting for the sale, then buying 1 ounce samples to see what blends you like. Once you gauge your tastes, bulk up at the next sale.

Many great bulk options have been suggested. If you know your likes, then focus on those with a few alternatives for a change of pace. For example, I've drifted away from Latakia but have a pound of Byzantium that scratches the itch.

My bulk staples include:

English - Balkan Supreme, Byzantium
Burley - Cube Cut Burley, Half and Half
Aromatic - 1-Q, Nutty Irishman
Virginia - Virginia Slices, Superior Navy Flake
Orientals - Oriental Silk
Deertounge - Crooner
@The Amish Tyrant Can you recommend the Clay King any bulk Virginia / Cavendish blends?
@UB 40 recommends I get a tin of Sillem's Musketeer as he says I'd like the tin art. This is a cube cut Burley / Cavendish baccy - he says it would be easy to load in my clay.
I think Burley would be less suited to C17/18 reenactment and I'm not a fan of Latakia. So it's Virginia / Cavendish all the way for the Clay King!
I think "Clay King" sounds like a pipe baccy; I imagine it would be a golden coloured Virginia / Cavendish blend. The commercial pipe baccy most like my imagined "Clay King" would probably be SG Black Forest.
@simong recommends SG Cannon Plug as it's said to date back to the English Civil War in the 17th Century so perfect for the Sealed Knot events!
Should I show the Sealed Knot / Lace Wars / Redcoats & Revolutionaries and the fellow pipe smokers at Nottingham Pipe Show my ability to speed smoke a clay pipe & smoke a cigarette in 1 drag???
At the other end of the scale, I made a clay pipe of St Bruno Ready rubbed last 54 minutes; a new record for me!
 
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I think Burley would be less suited to C17/18 reenactment and I'm not a fan of Latakia. So it's Virginia / Cavendish all the way for the Clay King!
This is the wrong thread for it, but I would think burley is closer to what they would have been smoking in the 17th/18th century than some mild Virginia/Cavendish blend.
 
Jul 26, 2021
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@The Amish Tyrant Can you recommend the Clay King any bulk Virginia / Cavendish blends?
@UB 40 recommends I get a tin of Sillem's Musketeer as he says I'd like the tin art. This is a cube cut Burley / Cavendish baccy - he says it would be easy to load in my clay.
I think Burley would be less suited to C17/18 reenactment and I'm not a fan of Latakia. So it's Virginia / Cavendish all the way for the Clay King!
I think "Clay King" sounds like a pipe baccy; I imagine it would be a golden coloured Virginia / Cavendish blend. The commercial pipe baccy most like my imagined "Clay King" would probably be SG Black Forest.
@simong recommends SG Cannon Plug as it's said to date back to the English Civil War in the 17th Century so perfect for the Sealed Knot events!
Should I show the Sealed Knot / Lace Wars / Redcoats & Revolutionaries and the fellow pipe smokers at Nottingham Pipe Show my ability to speed smoke a clay pipe & smoke a cigarette in 1 drag???
At the other end of the scale, I made a clay pipe of St Bruno Ready rubbed last 54 minutes; a new record for me!
Superior/Luxury Flake, Bullseye, Match Victorian, or Yorktown may get you where you need to go.

I like using the Tobacco Search function at SPC, since it let's you include and exclude components and search different cuts. The link is below, just click on the filter to play around.

 
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The Clay King

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