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pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
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Slidell, LA
So many posts that I could reply to in this discussion.
Do you know why the U.S. Coast Guard isn't part of the Department of Defense like other military services? It's because of Posse Comitatus. Originally the Coast Guard was part of the Treasury department. Even going back to its founding in 1790, the Coast Guard had a mission of stopping smuggling.

As for the "War on Drugs" here's irony for you... the government entity tasked with preventing drugs from entering the U.S. by vessel is almost criminally underfunded by Congress to the point that the Coast Guard has to placed law enforcement teams on Navy and other countries vessels to conduct law enforcement operations. (Coast Guard nabs $20 million of illegal drugs in major bust - https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/02/27/coast-guard-nabs-20-million-of-illegal-drugs-in-major-bust/)
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,960
14,335
Humansville Missouri
So many posts that I could reply to in this discussion.
Do you know why the U.S. Coast Guard isn't part of the Department of Defense like other military services? It's because of Posse Comitatus. Originally the Coast Guard was part of the Treasury department. Even going back to its founding in 1790, the Coast Guard had a mission of stopping smuggling.

As for the "War on Drugs" here's irony for you... the government entity tasked with preventing drugs from entering the U.S. by vessel is almost criminally underfunded by Congress to the point that the Coast Guard has to placed law enforcement teams on Navy and other countries vessels to conduct law enforcement operations. (Coast Guard nabs $20 million of illegal drugs in major bust - https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/02/27/coast-guard-nabs-20-million-of-illegal-drugs-

About ten years ago I was at a closing, and the president of a bank asked me if I thought we should audit the Federal Reserve.

How do you explain to a man who is president of a bank all the reserves of his bank are held by the Federal Reserve, and audited, in practical effect, every single day?

Recent surveys show about four out of ten American adults are not positive Neil Armstrong waked on the moon.

I can remember it. It was in all the papers and on all the television channels at the time.:)

I wonder how many Americans know about the Posse Comitatas Act?

If they do know, how many understand that giving the Commander in Chief the unbridled power to send in the military to enforce civil and criminal laws would mean the death of freedom in this nation as we’ve all come to know it?

As my hair turns ever more to silver, I’m so grateful that at home, church and school in Humansville Missouri I had no choice at all but to look up the truth about matters of law, science and religion and abide by the truth, no matter what.

I still buy a World Almanac and Book of Facts every year out of lifelong habit.


But I don’t need reference sources to know you risk death and danger from traveling to Matamoros.:)
 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,702
18,938
Connecticut, USA
About ten years ago I was at a closing, and the president of a bank asked me if I thought we should audit the Federal Reserve.

How do you explain to a man who is president of a bank all the reserves of his bank are held by the Federal Reserve, and audited, in practical effect, every single day?

Recent surveys show about four out of ten American adults are not positive Neil Armstrong waked on the moon.

I can remember it. It was in all the papers and on all the television channels at the time.:)

I wonder how many Americans know about the Posse Comitatas Act?

If they do know, how many understand that giving the Commander in Chief the unbridled power to send in the military to enforce civil and criminal laws would mean the death of freedom in this nation as we’ve all come to know it?

As my hair turns ever more to silver, I’m so grateful that at home, church and school in Humansville Missouri I had no choice at all but to look up the truth about matters of law, science and religion and abide by the truth, no matter what.

I still buy a World Almanac and Book of Facts every year out of lifelong habit.


But I don’t need reference sources to know you risk death and danger from traveling to Matamoros.:)
Are you suuure ??? How can we really know ?? ;):ROFLMAO:


:

Is your hair really turning silver or did someone switch your mirrors ??? ;):ROFLMAO:

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Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,702
18,938
Connecticut, USA
So many posts that I could reply to in this discussion.
Do you know why the U.S. Coast Guard isn't part of the Department of Defense like other military services? It's because of Posse Comitatus. Originally the Coast Guard was part of the Treasury department. Even going back to its founding in 1790, the Coast Guard had a mission of stopping smuggling.

As for the "War on Drugs" here's irony for you... the government entity tasked with preventing drugs from entering the U.S. by vessel is almost criminally underfunded by Congress to the point that the Coast Guard has to placed law enforcement teams on Navy and other countries vessels to conduct law enforcement operations. (Coast Guard nabs $20 million of illegal drugs in major bust - https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/02/27/coast-guard-nabs-20-million-of-illegal-drugs-in-major-bust/)
Who benefits ??? !! 🤔🤷‍♂️
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,960
14,335
Humansville Missouri
Who benefits ??? !! 🤔🤷‍♂️

I used to listen to my folks talking about things that happened during the Great Depression, or sometimes repeating stories about things that occurred before they were born, and I’d think they sounded very old.

Now my youngest son likes to listen to me rail against all the horrible things the year 1964 brought, the Gulf of Tonkin and the Vietnam War, pot metal instead of silver coins, the loss of good Winchesters, and worst of all those Beatles coming over here from England and starting the long haired hippie craze.

The only good thing I know that happened in 1964 was the Warren Commission Report, and maybe the Pontiac GTO.


Distinguished Professor Emeritus Alonzo Hamby is Humansville’s most famous scholar to date, and I still occasionally visit with him over the phone. My mother was one of his teachers and inspired him to be a history professor and he never forgot. She regarded Lonnie Hamby as a genius, until she died.


Lonnie Hamby has a theory that disbelieving the Warren Commission Report marked the mainstreaming of delusional conspiratorial thought in this nation.

If you can’t accept that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy then con men wearing suits can sell you any wild story in the world for their own profit.
 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,702
18,938
Connecticut, USA
I used to listen to my folks talking about things that happened during the Great Depression, or sometimes repeating stories about things that occurred before they were born, and I’d think they sounded very old.

Now my youngest son likes to listen to me rail against all the horrible things the year 1964 brought, the Gulf of Tonkin and the Vietnam War, pot metal instead of silver coins, the loss of good Winchesters, and worst of all those Beatles coming over here from England and starting the long haired hippie craze.

The only good thing I know that happened in 1964 was the Warren Commission Report, and maybe the Pontiac GTO.


Distinguished Professor Emeritus Alonzo Hamby is Humansville’s most famous scholar to date, and I still occasionally visit with him over the phone. My mother was one of his teachers and inspired him to be a history professor and he never forgot. She regarded Lonnie Hamby as a genius, until she died.


Lonnie Hamby has a theory that disbelieving the Warren Commission Report marked the mainstreaming of delusional conspiratorial thought in this nation.

If you can’t accept that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy then con men wearing suits can sell you any wild story in the world for their own profit.
First, Non-Sequitur. Second, the kool-aid only works if everyone drinks it ! To each his own and best wishes. All the best.
 
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Mission, Ks
Military forces hurt people and break things, that’s it.
100% not true, we have multiple US military units who’s primary mission is humanitarian aid.

USNS Comfort
USNS Mercy
Amphibious Construction Battalions 1&2

As a Seabee in ACB2 I spent 6 months in Haiti in 2010 providing infrastructure to put beans and bandages ashore, building schools and hospitals, providing humanitarian relief to the Haitian people.

Amphibious construction battalions can bring the hurt when appropriate but their primary mission natural disaster response.
 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,702
18,938
Connecticut, USA
100% not true, we have multiple US military units who’s primary mission is humanitarian aid.

USNS Comfort
USNS Mercy
Amphibious Construction Battalions 1&2

As a Seabee in ACB2 I spent 6 months in Haiti in 2010 providing infrastructure to put beans and bandages ashore, building schools and hospitals, providing humanitarian relief to the Haitian people.

Amphibious construction battalions can bring the hurt when appropriate but their primary mission natural disaster response.
Goodreads: "There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, “Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intend to do, bomb them?”

A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: “Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?” You could have heard a pin drop."
 

bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,230
41,538
RTP, NC. USA
Goodreads: "There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, “Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intend to do, bomb them?”

A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: “Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?” You could have heard a pin drop."
Now, now. Let's not be too harsh on Frenchies. Their emperor didn't know how to button his waist coat.
 

Briar Tuck

Lifer
Nov 29, 2022
1,109
5,744
Oregon coast
That's precisely the plan.

Anon you'll have Pfuizer et al. selling you "safe and effective" fentanyl and then the Addictol to "safely and effectively" "cure" the addiction. Round biz.
Yep, they do exactly the same thing with gambling here. Our state "lottery" includes video machines like you would see in any Las Vegas casino. I have friends that dump hundreds of dollars a month into these things. The same state government that operates and promotes this racket also operates, funds, and promotes gambling addiction treatment resources.

Create the problem, offer the solution, all with your tax dollars.
 
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Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,702
18,938
Connecticut, USA
Yep, they do exactly the same thing with gambling here. Our state "lottery" includes video machines like you would see in any Las Vegas casino. I have friends that dump hundreds of dollars a month into these things. The same state government that operates and promotes this racket also operates, funds, and promotes gambling addiction treatment resources.

Create the problem, offer the solution, all with your tax dollars.
Except for pipe tobacco !
 
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stearmandriver

Might Stick Around
Mar 13, 2018
70
163
"Starting today we are going to launch an information campaign for Mexicans who live and work in the United States, and for all Hispanics, to inform them of what we are doing in Mexico, and how this initiative by the Republicans, in addition to being irresponsible, is an offense against the people of Mexico, a lack of respect for our independence, our sovereignty,”
Yes. What about that suggests to you that he was advocating for illegal voting? Quite a few Mexicans "live and work" in the US with citizenship, right?
 

stearmandriver

Might Stick Around
Mar 13, 2018
70
163
If you really believe that you're delusional.

Our elections are a total clusterfuck of rampant fraud. And foreign nationals voting in them may be the least of the problems.
Well, here's the thing: when something is true, there is evidence for it. Evidence that, in context, holds up to scrutiny and logical analysis. Every time, without exception.

How many investigations have there been - chaired by folks with political interests on both sides of the aisle - into the reliability of our most recent election? And what have they all found?

How many lawsuits alleging fraud have been dismissed for lack of evidence?

Conversely, how many legal challenges or investigations have found evidence of meaningful fraud?

I don't guess I have to provide you with the answers to these questions... You know them. So I'll just ask this:. What's more delusional, to accept reality as it is? Or insist on a conspiracy that the entirety of the criminal justice system has told you time and again didn't happen?

Which position would seem more logical to an outside observer?

To put it another way, what do you suppose you know that the FBI, NSA, DOJ, and SEC all do not? Maybe they'd like to hear from you, if you really have some evidence?

I couldn't care less how anyone voted. I mean that sincerely. Your politics are your own. Where I care is where demonstrably false narratives are pushed as true; not because any particular narrative offends me, but because things have to make sense. Facts and data matter. Evidence matters. Emotions do not.
 

Zero

Lifer
Apr 9, 2021
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13,256
100% not true, we have multiple US military units who’s primary mission is humanitarian aid.

USNS Comfort
USNS Mercy
Amphibious Construction Battalions 1&2

As a Seabee in ACB2 I spent 6 months in Haiti in 2010 providing infrastructure to put beans and bandages ashore, building schools and hospitals, providing humanitarian relief to the Haitian people.

Amphibious construction battalions can bring the hurt when appropriate but their primary mission natural disaster response.
As a Combat Engineer, I worked alongside the Seabees back in '99 building bunkers and hard shelter buildings. One of the things I remember from that deployment. I remember them being very hard working. My unit also built some houses for Habitat for Humanity when we weren't deployed.
 

Zero

Lifer
Apr 9, 2021
1,746
13,256
I'm leaving this room now, something about it evokes a memory of old musty padded church pews that have been farted on over the years with little hard balls of bubblegum stuck underneath. Disturbing
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,960
14,335
Humansville Missouri
100% not true, we have multiple US military units who’s primary mission is humanitarian aid.

USNS Comfort
USNS Mercy
Amphibious Construction Battalions 1&2

As a Seabee in ACB2 I spent 6 months in Haiti in 2010 providing infrastructure to put beans and bandages ashore, building schools and hospitals, providing humanitarian relief to the Haitian people.

Amphibious construction battalions can bring the hurt when appropriate but their primary mission natural disaster response.

Yes, in peacetime our military is used in time of natural disasters to help.

But it’s not intended for that.

The founding fathers of our constitutional republic made our democratically elected President the Commander in Chief.

That one man, could end life as we have come to know it on the Northern Hemisphere if he can get the launch codes from an officer carrying the nuclear football, only a few feet away from him. That officer hopefully will refuse unless the Secretary of Defense consents, during peacetime.

It is the most awesome power and responsibly in all recorded history.

Because of the Posse Comitatas Act, hopefully every military commander and all military personnel would refuse an illegal order to go round up violators of domestic law.

If not, welcome to the Banana Republic of the United States.:)
 
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