Barling 1656 - Can Anyone Narrow Down the Date/Era?

[sablebrush52]

Spectacular title. Well deserved.

Thanks, Jason. I shall endeavor to avoid winding up with my head on a spike.

No, a coronet is a musical instrument.

Well according to several dictionaries I consulted, a cornet is a musical instrument, and a coronet is a type of crown. It think it's pretty sneaky. What if I doffed the dingus and tried to play it before HRM? I'd wind up in the Tower, and you know what a dump THAT place is!

 

[huntertrw]

Well according to several dictionaries I consulted, a cornet is a musical instrument, and a coronet is a type of crown.

I inheret the varlet jguss deemed apropos the former (forsooth, recall his jibe concerning your codpiece).
Alas, the Queen's slavish scribe doth reveal this august title gives need yet another testy requirement, ere to be spoken. You may smoke only Old English Curve Cut. Give me leave to assist you in meeting same. Pray pack your cellar with haste and dispatch it henceforth to me. Tarry not, for our sorrow wouldst indeed be manifold were we to find your head fast to a Royal guard's pike on the morrow.

 

[sablebrush52]

I inheret the varlet jguss deemed apropos the former (forsooth, recall his jibe concerning your codpiece).

Methinks Sir Jon hath a typo made, perchance in consequence of a surfeit of Malmsy wine. His keen interest in my codpiece doth seem most unnatural.
But what a consequence drear and terrible to face, a life bound by Old English Curve Cut and nay else. It is a fate worse than a beefeater's pike, or Liz' perfume, that I would feign become a wanton in its employ. Fie! Fie, say I, to suffer this impudent indignity of at the behest of the Purpl'd glove. Nay, it is too much to bear, this gloom´d and sepuchral life's wandering in an arid desert.
Fear not, brave hunter! I would not place this heavy burden upon you. I raise my fist against a vexatious heaven and cry my defiance. I will smoke my blessed Haddo's and a myriad splendid array of miraculous weeds ere I bend to such a demand, whatever may be the cost, though the whole of hell should rise and belch its acrid lakeland upon me!

 

[huntertrw]

His keen interest in my codpiece doth seem most unnatural.

Perchance he thinks of fishes instead of the natural use thereof? But lo, they appear not same:
Codpiece:

Codfish:

 

[piffyr]

Thank you, gents! This has been one of the most informative and entertaining threads I've read in a good while.
Congrats on the new bardhood, Jesse!

 

[osiris01]

Yes, a thoroughly enjoyable tangent. However, I thought I'd drag everyone back to the 21st century just for a moment with a few pics of the finished pipe to close the loop, as it were (well nearly: I've got a bit more tarting up to do with the lip).
I removed the cake from the rim and the sandpaper had scored the stain, so I decided to take a few microns off with some 1200 grit paper. The stain is very close to Fiebings dark brown but I added a drop of black to reduce the red base, diluted it and gradually built up the colour to a close match which I happy with. The rim is fairly crisp but not so much so that it is a perfect edge (although it wasn't far off to begin with).
I rubbed the stummel down with 3200 micro-mesh upwards to remove some of the surface marks but didn't want to remove any stain, so there are still minor marks on the surface. I then buffed it up with some carnauba.
The stem. Apart from the bloody hole in it, the lip was well worn. I would normally build this up, but wanted the repair to be as discrete as possible, so I just filled the chip and reshaped it a little. The epoxy doesn't buff up to disguise it completely but I find that a thin layer of high viscosity black CA glue over the epoxy does a pretty good job and matches the vulcanite well. Unfortunately, mine has dried up so I'm waiting for some to arrive. Anyway, all in all, I'm happy with the result and thanks again for everyone's help.
Geoff
(Jesse: a titled man must provide patronage and, believe it or not, I can actually play the lute. For a modest income, I can provide your court with appropriate entertainment. And BTW, never mention dead swans in front of Liz. All swans in the Kingdom belong to the crown ('tis true) - to kill one is treason and your head will be stuck on a pike outside the Tower in a blink.)

 

[sablebrush52]

Wow! That looks amazing! I hope that the epoxy holds. If you put that on eBay as it is, you're going to get a lot more that my estimate, more like double, maybe more. But, stem patches have a way of just falling off at the worst moment. I still think you ought to treat yourself to this pipe.
OK, added to the list, no dead swans...

 

[ssjones]

Wow, nice job! Matching the stain color is always a tricky proposition, and it looks like you nailed it.

 

[osiris01]

Thanks chaps. It's just getting the stem repair to hold. The chunk missing broke off quite cleanly so there's very little surface area for the epoxy to adhere to. I've actually already removed the repair - it wasn't going to hold. I've filed the broken edges into a point so the epoxy can overlap the break rather than just try to cling on to the broken edges and I will have to build up the lip a bit for the same reason. I've also managed to get a thin layer of epoxy inside the slot running down about 5mm. I did think about micro pins but there's just not enough thickness in the stem to put one in. I'll get there.
It will go up for sale if I'm comfortable about the repair - it feels a bit like selling the family silver, but I need the money more than the pipe. I buy 30-40 estates a month and there are always pipes that can't be resold. This month alone I have two Petersons with completely worn stamps; a Rhodesian hallmarked to 46 and a Zulu that looks from about the same era, and unfortunately if I keep all the good ones, my pipe collection is the only thing the bailiffs will take. Sad, but needs must when the devil drives.

 

[piffyr]

Great work on that rim, osiris. It looks very natural, as it should. Did you restain just the rim or the entire pipe?

It's just getting the stem repair to hold. The chunk missing broke off quite cleanly so there's very little surface area for the epoxy to adhere to. I've actually already removed the repair - it wasn't going to hold. I've filed the broken edges into a point so the epoxy can overlap the break rather than just try to cling on to the broken edges and I will have to build up the lip a bit for the same reason. I've also managed to get a thin layer of epoxy inside the slot running down about 5mm. I did think about micro pins but there's just not enough thickness in the stem to put one in. I'll get there.

You've already had one patch to fail. So, since you plan to sell the pipe, my advice would be to leave it alone and let the new owner decide what to about it. You'll take a hit on the final value because of the damage, but you'll also take a hit when you disclose the repair. Why add the liability of a potential failure post sale?

 

[osiris01]

Hi Piffyr, I guess it's because I'm a stubborn old git who can't let something like a stem repair beat him. You're right, I know you're right and I'm just going to have to go for therapy. The nagging thing is that I do these repairs regularly with success - the problem is I don't want to build the lip up - which in itself is ridiculous since I will declare the repair anyway and it will be a better stem for it. I can't help it - I'm a flawed individual.
If I'm not happy this time round, I will take your advice and sell the pipe, warts and all (he said through gritted teeth). If I'm not happy by this time tomorrow, that's it. I promise.
I just stained the rim. I was lucky in that the colour was very close to the standard dark brown stain I use. Diluting it is the key. I just used a cotton bud and kept applying it until it matched. Took a couple of waxings and dewaxings, but ultimately, I was just lucky with the colour.