Barling 1656 - Can Anyone Narrow Down the Date/Era?

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georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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Yo, one a'you Mod Dudes...
It's time to put something meaningfully Barling-y below Jesse's avatar pic, don't you think? (You know, in the same spot you'd put "smartass" under Harris' avatar if allowed to) :mrgreen: Some sort of "site local" title. He is to Barling what John Loring was to Dunhill.
Besides, he makes pretty cartoons in his day job.

 

osiris01

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 21, 2017
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An absolutely fantastic post. The time and effort you have put in to help me out is actually quite touching (I know we all like a good puzzle, but this was really above and beyond). And so, a very sincere thank you to all who have contributed to this thread - obviously I'm an interested party, but it's been fascinating to sit back and watch the dating process in action by people who clearly have expertise.
I guess this leaves me asking 'what the hell do I now do with it'. My usual MO is to simply strip it back, restain and wax, but I feel this pipe should be allowed to remain as it was intended. I can't afford not to sell it, and there are issues like the rim being attacked by a 40 grit piece of sandpaper, the odd nick and scratch, and of course, the stem.
I can't do much to the rim without removing the cake; I don't know how far the sandpaper has penetrated, so I first need to remove that. I was thinking of going over the stummel with fine micro-mesh and just rewaxing. I can do a fairly decent job of the stem since it's quite a routine job for the pipes that I get, but I don't want to diminish the value of the pipe. I'm guessing that a good repair would not do so, but please shout if I'm wrong.
Then there's selling it. I don't really know where to begin. Ebay is the obvious option, but I'm innately mistrustful of auctioning it and would prefer a Buy it Now type deal. Value-wise: Again, I don't know where to start. Pre-trans Barlings go from £70 up to £1000s. Is this a pipe, with all the uncertainty surrounding it, that would appeal to collectors, or is it still a 'smoking' pipe? I really have no idea, so any input would be gratefully received (or PM me if you prefer).
Anyway, again, my thanks to all, and if anyone has any ideas on how I should proceed, I would very much welcome your advice.
Geoff
Edit: Yes Jesse, cheque's in the mail. :)

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Well, my normal response would be to just fix it up and smoke it. You can try to patch the break, but the problem is that these don't often hold. Maybe georged has some input there, since he's the master repairman and restorer. Stripping the pipe will diminish it's collector value. Topping a pipe, when done well, is a delicate operation. If the rim edge is razor sharp on a vintage pipe, that's a dead giveaway, and getting the stain to match seamlessly is difficult to get right. You might be better off just doing as little as possible to this one and simply sell it off. It's not going to be a big money piece, because of condition, maybe $100 or less USD. I think it would be safe to say that it's a pre-war Barling in your description and leave out the particulars.

 

osiris01

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 21, 2017
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I was actually coming to that conclusion myself. I enjoy refurbing estates (which is just as well since it is my only income at the moment), but the enjoyment diminishes as the value of the pipe increases until it becomes a stress. I'll get the loupe out tomorrow morning and see what I can realistically achieve. I doubt I have the skills to bring it up to mint and in all probability the work will be stressful with little benefit. So, as much as it goes against the grain, auctioning it off for someone else's refurb project may be the most sensible course of action. After all, $100 will buy me 10 estates that I can enjoy doing. (Still, reducing everything down to the bottom line is something I detest in modernity, so I may do as you would usually suggest: fix it up, smoke it and be happy about it.)
Thanks,
Geoff

 

ssjones

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May 11, 2011
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Yo, one a'you Mod Dudes...
It's time to put something meaningfully Barling-y below Jesse's avatar pic, don't you think? (You know, in the same spot you'd put "smartass" under Harris' avatar if allowed to) [:mrgreen:] Some sort of "site local" title. He is to Barling what John Loring was to Dunhill.
I'll see what I can do. Jesse - PM me any suggestions.

 

ssjones

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May 11, 2011
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And now,please all rise for the introduction of newly appointed, "The Bard of Barlings".

AND, if anyone tries to shake his hand without it being offered, I'm breaking some fingers.

Please keep these rules of etiquette in mind when addressing Jesse:

https://www.wikihow.com/Formally-Address-British-Royalty-and-Aristocracy-in-Person
No exceptions will be given.

 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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Now that you're all royalled up, Jesse, you need a proper coat of arms to go with the title. Here ya go:
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Barling-_Pipes.jpg


 

dmcmtk

Lifer
Aug 23, 2013
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Bard of Barling's...I'm going to still think of him as The Barling's Boffin. :D
A "boffin" was generally viewed as odd, quirky or peculiar, though quite bright and essential to helping in the war effort.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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Congratulations! It is well deserved.
And in honor of this newly confered title, I present:
Rolling High: Bards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10iLSNnR6OY
However...is it not incumbent upon Bards to offer some inspiring poetic prose?
I would think a verse or two regarding Barling lore would be appropriate on such an occaison as this if our new BOB should be so inspired.

 

osiris01

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 21, 2017
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Well deserved indeed. As a relative newcomer to this forum, to sit back and witness it was truly remarkable - and freely given (except for the 100k cheque, of course).
Next time I bump in 'Her Maj', I'll suggest a knighthood. Sir Jesse, the Bard of Barlings - has a good ring to it, don't you think?
Geoff

 
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