Any EDC CCW'ers?

[anantaandroscoggin]

A little something that can be printed on some crack-n-peel stock and attached to a firm's door next to their own sticker.

 

[Sobrbiker]

A little something that can be printed on some crack-n-peel stock and attached to a firm's door next to their own sticker.

Sums it up nicely, here’s a non-pdf:


As to the truncheon lady-my guess would be her visit was to New England

 

[Python 357]

Upon closer inspection I noticed that your model 29 has a pinned barrel and recessed cylinder. That is a classic.

At one time I had one of the largest model 29/ Pre model 29 collections in existence. Long story short. I sold most of them and gave the money to single mothers who didn't have two pennies to rub together.The guns just sat in crates in an upstairs closet

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Damn right, and my license is a little document called the United States Constitution.

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

I just got my CCW license here in Central America, due to rising crime and some long time philosophical wandering...

Im still waiting on it to be registered to be able to pick it up, as gun control laws are very strict here, but I should have my new Glock 19 gen 5 MOS in a few wks hopefully.

I've never owned a gun and have only shot maybe 50 rounds of .22, 9mm, and .38 before in my life. I've read probably 8 books in the last 6mo on firearm safety, defense tactics, legal defense, and situational awareness. Its pretty exciting. Honestly, ive got 4 small kids and am very cautious (almost scared) about the whole thing. It will probably be a while till i work up to a point of skill where i can consider carrying chambered, appendix, etc... but I cant wait to practice!

Anyone here care to relate any advice or regale some tales?

And yes, i already have a good biometric/keycode safe and a quality kydex holster.

Sounds like a bit of newbie box checking and totally understandable. I was definitely excited when I picked up my first handgun, and have always been a bit of a gun guy, so to speak, but it was sober reality in short order when simply shooting vs. considering self-defense aspects started to become part of the equation. Making absolute judgments as a novice about appendix carry is something you may want to reconsider. There are some skills you may want to make sure you have before you go that route, and maybe carry with an alternative or two and acquire a lot of experience carrying and handling before making that decision.

I'm glad I don't have any tales, so to speak.

I was lucky to have a friend in law enforcement who is a qualified instructor and went straight to him before fiddling with my first pistol (and I've handled other firearms for ages), same with my girls (out of HS) and wife, who were interested. All have handled shotguns and rimfire rifles over the years. Hopefully you have access to and will avail yourself of some good instruction - books are great but no substitute for hands on instruction, IMO, when it comes to handguns.

Do what you think best to secure. I had shotguns and rifles in the house the whole time my girls grew up but I admit handguns didn't appear until they were pretty much grown - didn't have any interest in carrying back then, had home defense covered, and just didn't think I wanted handguns in the house, which seems odd in hindsight, but there you are.

You've chosen a good firearm and I owned a Gen 5 19, but no longer do - Glocks just aren't for me, millions swear by them.

if you choose to carry IMO it is a lifestyle and requires real dedication and practice and training, but that's just me.

You haven't commented since your first post, maybe provide an update on how things have gone and your experiences so far?

 

[krizzose]

I've not seen mention of noting the backstop, particularly those of you who prefer weapons with great penetration power. An improper backstop, thin walls, adjoining living quarters or shops, no backstop on on open street with peds and traffic and such may mean you shouldn't engage because of the risk to innocent bystanders. Sometimes you simply can't engage an assailant.

Nor have I noticed, might have missed such, any mention of knowing the local laws, inside and out, backwards and forwards with regard to self defense and/or the defense of others.

And, for your own protection after being involved in a shooting answer no questions from the cops except to ID self. They are not your friends at this point in time. Your second call, after 911, is to your lawyer. Answer nothing, no matter how innocuous the question appears, until your personal attorney is on scene and you've consulted with him/her, privately.

I live in an older suburb; small lots, houses fairly close. My home defense weapon is a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with magnum 4s. Paul Harrel’s videos on the subject (and his “meat target” demonstrations) convinced me that there would be sufficient penetration on a perp at 10’, and likely none on my neighbors 2 to 4 walls away. Conveniently it’s also the weapon I have by far the most experience with (lots of dark mornings in the duck blind). I keep the chamber unloaded for safety, and the sound of a pump action being racked is a universally understood recommendation to GTFO.

 

[warren]

I keep the chamber unloaded for safety, and the sound of a pump action being racked is a universally understood recommendation to GTFO.

The "safety" is the safety for crying out loud!

One of my dead co-workers, killed on stakeout, was told that, practiced it and was killed with his, basically useless unloaded weapon in his hands. His badge and a plaque on the wall at the station stand a memento to his sad choice of tactics. Nothing prevents you from keeping a round in the chamber and, if you can't/won't shoot, simply wanting to try and scare your assailant, jack the round out and another into the chamber. If there is still time, perhaps you might return fire. You should definitely reevaluate your choice of tactics.

 

[instymp]

The "safety" is the safety for crying out loud!

One of my dead co-workers, killed on stakeout, was told that, practiced it and was killed with his, basically useless unloaded weapon in his hands. His badge and a plaque on the wall at the station stand a memento to his sad choice of tactics. Nothing prevents you from keeping a round in the chamber and, if you can't/won't shoot, simply wanting to try and scare your assailant, jack the round out and another into the chamber. If there is still time, perhaps you might return fire. You should definitely reevaluate your choice of tactics.

You are probably technically correct but he is doing what is comfortable to him.
At least he is armed.

 

[warren]

You are probably technically correct but he is doing what is comfortable to him.
At least he is armed.

Armed with a club maybe. Certainly ill prepared for a possible gunfight. A firearm is for killing, not scaring. Different strokes I suppose. He simply sounds like one of those many folks who simply shouldn't be armed. Sounds more like the sort who gets their weapon taken away.

 

[Sig]

For someone that claims to be through with a thread, I am not looking into any so called statistical analysis you purport to claim holds some truth.
You previously, and falsely claimed that a small study regarding the use (brandishing/showing) of fire arms in self defense, which was then extrapolated up to national size, has resulted in 2,500,000 saved lives every year. This is clearly nonsense, and not a single study will claim this number of saved lives. That's pure speculation. Either yourself or the right wing pro gun lobby is making this up, because even if only a fraction of these potential deaths are homide, that's a homicide rate way beyond any other country. Do you honestly believe America would be a lawless dystopia in the absence of guns, with the deaths equivalent to 20 Hiroshima bombs.
Comparing population size in the UK with USA, roughly 1to5, by not being a good guy with a gun, do you think I am contributing to 500,000 needless deaths in UK every year?
Violent crime IS lower in the UK. Homicide rate by both guns and knives is both lower in the UK for example.
Just look at threads here. In the Freedom loving US you all live in fear, and that any responsible citizen must carry to defend themselves from the bad guy that carrying.
I do think in fact in terms of serious gun control in US, the horse has bolted. No country has the deep held cultural and legal hard on for fire arms like America does.

On this of all days, I am glad you got your independence if that then gives you the freedom to send kids out donning kevlar school bags and teachers to educate with guns in their drawer, then good luck to you.

But you wont go look at the study?
You do NOT know how statistics are done obviously.
This study was peer reviewed by MANY other researchers, including John Lot, who may know more about firearm statistics than any other human.
Call me out but refuse to do ANY research.....that sir is called ignorance.
If you do not know how studies are done, just leave the conversation alone.
This is one of the problems in this world. People who scoff and insult others even though they are clueless and refuse to enlighten themselves.
The study exists, and has been cited in the SCOTUS twice in the last few months. And it is not a "small" study. It has been cited in dozens of journals and court cases.
Again, if you cannot understand the topic, find another topic you DO understand. Because you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Nothing you have posted has any factual relevance. Just nonsense you heard on TV. Its just useless to talk to ignorant people.

 

[Sig]

For someone that claims to be through with a thread, I am not looking into any so called statistical analysis you purport to claim holds some truth.
You previously, and falsely claimed that a small study regarding the use (brandishing/showing) of fire arms in self defense, which was then extrapolated up to national size, has resulted in 2,500,000 saved lives every year. This is clearly nonsense, and not a single study will claim this number of saved lives. That's pure speculation. Either yourself or the right wing pro gun lobby is making this up, because even if only a fraction of these potential deaths are homide, that's a homicide rate way beyond any other country. Do you honestly believe America would be a lawless dystopia in the absence of guns, with the deaths equivalent to 20 Hiroshima bombs.
Comparing population size in the UK with USA, roughly 1to5, by not being a good guy with a gun, do you think I am contributing to 500,000 needless deaths in UK every year?
Violent crime IS lower in the UK. Homicide rate by both guns and knives is both lower in the UK for example.
Just look at threads here. In the Freedom loving US you all live in fear, and that any responsible citizen must carry to defend themselves from the bad guy that carrying.
I do think in fact in terms of serious gun control in US, the horse has bolted. No country has the deep held cultural and legal hard on for fire arms like America does.

On this of all days, I am glad you got your independence if that then gives you the freedom to send kids out donning kevlar school bags and teachers to educate with guns in their drawer, then good luck to you.

Here it is.
Ordered by Obama, done by the CDC and many other federal agencies. Cited by hundreds of journals, courts and academia. And the number is 500,000 to 3,000,000.......not 2,500,000. All citations included. NOT a small study. A major study by the US government and crime think tanks and completely destroys what most believed about gun violence.

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press

Read chapter Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence: In 2010, more than 105,000 people were injured or killed in the Uni...

nap.nationalacademies.org

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

I always wash my pistols with water after each shooting, keeps them fresh.

And dont forget... always dry your bullets.

 

[Steddy]

For someone that claims to be through with a thread, I am not looking into any so called statistical analysis you purport to claim holds some truth.
You previously, and falsely claimed that a small study regarding the use (brandishing/showing) of fire arms in self defense, which was then extrapolated up to national size, has resulted in 2,500,000 saved lives every year. This is clearly nonsense, and not a single study will claim this number of saved lives. That's pure speculation. Either yourself or the right wing pro gun lobby is making this up, because even if only a fraction of these potential deaths are homide, that's a homicide rate way beyond any other country. Do you honestly believe America would be a lawless dystopia in the absence of guns, with the deaths equivalent to 20 Hiroshima bombs.
Comparing population size in the UK with USA, roughly 1to5, by not being a good guy with a gun, do you think I am contributing to 500,000 needless deaths in UK every year?
Violent crime IS lower in the UK. Homicide rate by both guns and knives is both lower in the UK for example.
Just look at threads here. In the Freedom loving US you all live in fear, and that any responsible citizen must carry to defend themselves from the bad guy that carrying.
I do think in fact in terms of serious gun control in US, the horse has bolted. No country has the deep held cultural and legal hard on for fire arms like America does.

On this of all days, I am glad you got your independence if that then gives you the freedom to send kids out donning kevlar school bags and teachers to educate with guns in their drawer, then good luck to you.

We don’t “all live in fear”. I would live in fear if my fellow law abiding countrymen were disarmed, with nothing more than our pudds in hand and a naive hope that tyranny is extinct.

 

[Sig]

We don’t “all live in fear”. I would live in fear if my fellow law abiding countrymen were disarmed, with nothing more than our pudds in hand and a naive hope that tyranny is extinct.

Im not supporting any country here, I believe we should mind our own business, but.......
Imagine if the Israeli people had the right to bear arms when their country was attacked. In some areas it took 4 days for Israeli forces to help people. By that time many were killed and taken hostage.
Prior to the attack, Israelis could only own firearms if they had a serious need......so most had no firearms. And to carry firearms was nearly impossible for the average citizen.
Would the RTBA have helped? Who knows, they didn't have the chance.
I CAN say this.......if a bunch of enemies parachuted into the USA, they would meet heavy resistance.

 

[JOHN72]

Im not supporting any country here, I believe we should mind our own business, but.......
Imagine if the Israeli people had the right to bear arms when their country was attacked. In some areas it took 4 days for Israeli forces to help people. By that time many were killed and taken hostage.
Prior to the attack, Israelis could only own firearms if they had a serious need......so most had no firearms. And to carry firearms was nearly impossible for the average citizen.
Would the RTBA have helped? Who knows, they didn't have the chance.
I CAN say this.......if a bunch of enemies parachuted into the USA, they would meet heavy resistance.

What Hamas did is not forgiven by God. I wish this gang of wretched lice of the Devil to be burned to ashes. Prayers for Israel and its people.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

What Hamas did is not forgiven by God. I wish this gang of wretched lice of the Devil to be burned to ashes. Prayers for Israel and its people.

Amen to that !

 

[brian64]

Thought it was worth bumping for this...a perfect example of the many stories in which the presence of a firearm prevented any injuries or deaths from occurring.

If the victim in this case did not have a firearm, it would have almost certainly resulted in either injuries or deaths, or both.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1827407267592900673

 

[Sobrbiker]

Thought it was worth bumping for this...a perfect example of the many stories in which the presence of a firearm prevented any injuries or deaths from occurring.

If the victim in this case did not have a firearm, it would have almost certainly resulted in either injuries or deaths, or both.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1827407267592900673

Because when seconds count, help is only minutes away

 

[anantaandroscoggin]

Because when seconds count, help is only minutes away

Depends on how rural you are. Could take 30 minutes to 3 hours in some places.

 

[romaso]

In Portland it could take 10-20 minutes for your 911 call to be answered, and any response longer than that.