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Nhassey48

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I owned a cob for a couple of weeks then chucked it. I smoke nothing but briar pipes as I prefer a pipe that you can build a nice cake in. I don't even like a the couple of meers I own which are IMP and SMS. I think they burn hot and no where near as good as my broken in briars. I will have to admit that almost everyone of my pipes is an artisan made pipe done by some very talented people. These are what I prefer to smoke as I get a nice dry ,cool, flavorful smoke every time. I am also a freak about my stems(yes I have issues). I only like Ebonite stems made by hand from the best German Ebonite. I also like them thin and certain shapes so they fit my teeth when I clench. I know, you are thinking to yourself this can't be so difficult, this shouldn't be so technical. I am sorry to say it is no picnic learning to smoke a pipe. Grab a nice Savinelli no filers or adapters and get a tin of tobacco from a few genres. I live straight Virginia Flakes, Virginia/Perique flakes and Virginia/Kentucky flakes. I say learn all you can on flakes and then dive head first into the deep end of the pool.


I also am a nut job with my tobacco as I only smoke flakes and plugs and one rope. It took me only 12 years or so before I learned about why I loved certain makers and I learned I couldn't smoke red virginia's Pipe smoking is for the patient but luckily you have this place as we all do our best to answer question from new folks. It will take time and help from others to find what makes you love your pipes and tobacco. This is an art nothing like smoking a cigar or cigarette. When you do succeed and have that first great smoke, you will want to thank me properly, maybe an Aston Martin Vantage would work.
I can’t tell if you are joking or defining the word “Pretentious” in life form.
 
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Pirin

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No, you are not.
Corn cobs just smoke better.
A well seasoned briar with a well maintained cake may approach a cob (but it will be different).
A meerschaum may have some similarities. There is something in the cob I will best describe as "warmth".
A well seasoned Falcon blows away any other briar (they moderately suck in the beginning). Still can't beat a cob.
Years ago I was reading this forum thinking of people who write such blasphemies being fanatics.
Now I'm in the process of giving away and selling most of my briars. I'm keeping my Dunhills for social smoking and some Falcons for lengthy trips (camping).
Cobs may require some minor tweaking in the beginning but they smoke the best.
I din't read the entire thread if anyone had suggested a forever stem. You can also order a proper stem from the nearest pipemaker.
 

Nhassey48

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No, you are not.
Corn cobs just smoke better.
A well seasoned briar with a well maintained cake may approach a cob (but it will be different).
A meerschaum may have some similarities. There is something in the cob I will best describe as "warmth".
A well seasoned Falcon blows away any other briar (they moderately suck in the beginning). Still can't beat a cob.
Years ago I was reading this forum thinking of people who write such blasphemies being fanatics.
Now I'm in the process of giving away and selling most of my briars. I'm keeping my Dunhills for social smoking and some Falcons for lengthy trips (camping).
Cobs may require some minor tweaking in the beginning but they smoke the best.
I din't read the entire thread if anyone had suggested a forever stem. You can also order a proper stem from the nearest pipemaker.
Thanks. I wonder at what point should I just stop trying my briar. I even bought a Savinelli 673KS and ran into problems I’ve only ever heard of. Gurgling, moisture from the stem into my mouth (awful) , tongue bite which I never got in my cobs. The Sav is so much nicer feeling and looking that I want to live it but it really isn’t the same. I wasn’t sure if it was a preference of cobs or just what I am used to. I tried charcoal filters for the tongue bite and moisture, and it was just too hard to draw enough to keep it lit. I don’t mind relighting but I rarely re lit my cob. Is there a timeframe you would recommend before I throw in the briar towel? I am not hating on briars, I really want to like them. But if these issues are common to briars I don’t feel it’s even worth it.
 
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Pirin

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Thanks. I wonder at what point should I just stop trying my briar. I even bought a Savinelli 673KS and ran into problems I’ve only ever heard of. Gurgling, moisture from the stem into my mouth (awful) , tongue bite which I never got in my cobs. The Sav is so much nicer feeling and looking that I want to live it but it really isn’t the same. I wasn’t sure if it was a preference of cobs or just what I am used to. I tried charcoal filters for the tongue bite and moisture, and it was just too hard to draw enough to keep it lit. I don’t mind relighting but I rarely re lit my cob. Is there a timeframe you would recommend before I throw in the briar towel? I am not hating on briars, I really want to like them. But if these issues are common to briars I don’t feel it’s even worth it.

I would suggest you to keep trying. Briar pipes are great. Corn cobs are better but this doesn't make briars bad. Some briars take more time to break.
I would suggest you revisit your moisture preference. I smoke my tobacco almost crisp. Slightly less dry if I'm going to smoke outside. Dry tobacco requires appropriate packing (the 1-2-3 method). There is a feeling I cannot explain, when tobacco expands and the smoke is full and dense (but the draw is not tight!). Maybe "traction" is a good word. Sip from an unlit pipe then light it and sip again to understand what I mean. I tamp accordingly (and gently) to keep the traction. I also don't dump ash. It acts as a heat insulation for the light.
Dry tobacco appears as more work; in the long term it isn't. Your pipes are happier, your mouth is happier and the subtle nuances in tobacco are being delivered. Water is not a good medium for flavour extraction from tobacco. Dry hot air is better.
Corn cobs are all forgiving. Briars require some work in the beginning.
By the way when I decide I have finished a bowl I put my palm on top and shake it vigorously. The remaining moisture and ashes coat the bowl and create cake. I don't touch inside my bowls. No cleaners, no napkins, no fingers. When it's time to ream, I ream.
Maybe you know all of this but it won't hurt anyone. I suggest that you smoke your tobacco too moist for a virgin Savinelli.
 
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Nhassey48

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I would suggest you to keep trying. Briar pipes are great. Corn cobs are better but this doesn't make briars bad. Some briars take more time to break.
I would suggest you revisit your moisture preference. I smoke my tobacco almost crisp. Slightly less dry if I'm going to smoke outside. Dry tobacco requires appropriate packing (the 1-2-3 method). There is a feeling I cannot explain, when tobacco expands and the smoke is full and dense (but the draw is not tight!). Maybe "traction" is a good word. Sip from an unlit pipe then light it and sip again to understand what I mean. I tamp accordingly (and gently) to keep the traction. I also don't dump ash. It acts as a heat insulation for the light.
Dry tobacco appears as more work; in the long term it isn't. Your pipes are happier, your mouth is happier and the subtle nuances in tobacco are being delivered. Water is not a good medium for flavour extraction from tobacco. Dry hot air is better.
Corn cobs are all forgiving. Briars require some work in the beginning.
By the way when I decide I have finished a bowl I put my palm on top and shake it vigorously. The remaining moisture and ashes coat the bowl and create cake. I don't touch inside my bowls. No cleaners, no napkins, no fingers. When it's time to ream, I ream.
Maybe you know all of this but it won't hurt anyone. I suggest that you smoke your tobacco too moist for a virgin Savinelli.
Thank you for the reply. I will give the drying a shot. It is a virgin savinelli, and it had a non carbonized bowl. I will keep smoking my 1 bowl a day and make small adjustments. Thanks so much!
 
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Pirin

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Thank you for the reply. I will give the drying a shot. It is a virgin savinelli, and it had a non carbonized bowl. I will keep smoking my 1 bowl a day and make small adjustments. Thanks so much!
In my experience non carbonised bowls break up faster. Some may disagree.
I wouldn't put any "catalyst" like honey. Simply smoking tobacco works great.
I forgot something: dealing with too densely packed moist tobacco is not fun. Contrary, too lightly packed dry tobacco is easy to correct. If the smoke is too hot, cigaretty or airy just tamp in small iterations until the burn is nice steady and calm.
 

cigrmaster

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I can’t tell if you are joking or defining the word “Pretentious” in life form.

I am mostly joking when I do post and I enjoy seeing someone get a good chuckle from one of my posts. I don't think pretentious is the word you are looking for, I would go with bat shit crazy as that is closer to most of my posts.
 
I am mostly joking when I do post and I enjoy seeing someone get a good chuckle from one of my posts. I don't think pretentious is the word you are looking for, I would go with bat shit crazy as that is closer to most of my posts.
Damn @cigrmaster !! Oh man, it's like seeing Superman get old, or Batman lose his edge. Back in the old days, you would have rattled teeth till everyone longed to be as pretentious as you. Nothing wrong with pretentious. Lions NEVER worry themselves with the opinions of the little sheep. Pretentious is glamorous. What, too scared to drive a Mercedes, instead of a little bubblegum Prius? Hmmmm... Some of us wear silk shirts and adorn ourselves with gold because we can. Everyone wants gold! And, I have so much that it just f'n drips off me.

A cob? You gotta be kidding me. On a website with the worlds best pipemakers are celebrated, someone's going to bring up a dimestore pipe?

See Harris, that's how it's done. Call me pretentious. Ha ha, I will wear that like a diamond encrusted badge of honor. puffy
 

edger

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No, you are not.
Corn cobs just smoke better.
A well seasoned briar with a well maintained cake may approach a cob (but it will be different).
A meerschaum may have some similarities. There is something in the cob I will best describe as "warmth".
A well seasoned Falcon blows away any other briar (they moderately suck in the beginning). Still can't beat a cob.
Years ago I was reading this forum thinking of people who write such blasphemies being fanatics.
Now I'm in the process of giving away and selling most of my briars. I'm keeping my Dunhills for social smoking and some Falcons for lengthy trips (camping).
Cobs may require some minor tweaking in the beginning but they smoke the best.
I din't read the entire thread if anyone had suggested a forever stem. You can also order a proper stem from the nearest pipemaker.
Yes to cobs and Falcons. Both offer consistently good smokes for small investment.
 

cigrmaster

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cos, I appreciate your notice of my less than best stuff. I am on a probation of sorts. I got a bit out of hand some time not too long ago and was almost banned. Sometimes I am on certain meds and I start blathering about all kinds of stupid things that the mods shouldn't have to deal with. I was very grateful they just put me in time out and not banned.

There are a lot of people who don't appreciate my humor or think I am just a psycho with some screws lose(correct on that one). I end up insulting some people unintentionally but my Boston humor is rude and crude and Kevin doesn't want that kind of crap on HIS site.
I now try and read my posts from a few different angles to make sure I am not pissing people off. I even will ask a mod in advance of posting something just to make sure.
It isn't a big deal as I believe that my running it past the mods first will keep it all good.
 
cos, I appreciate your notice of my less than best stuff. I am on a probation of sorts. I got a bit out of hand some time not too long ago and was almost banned. Sometimes I am on certain meds and I start blathering about all kinds of stupid things that the mods shouldn't have to deal with. I was very grateful they just put me in time out and not banned.
Aaaahhhhh, I see. Well, I never thought you were very funny, but you had chutzpah! puffy
If we could could get banned for being pretentious, the whole damned high end pipe market would just drop like lead balloon.
But, I see you're trying out this "nice guy" thing. Mmmmmm... maybe you'll grow into it. Practice, practice, practice... it's not easy. It's like playing the piano, you gotta practice it every day, or you just suck.
 

anotherbob

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I have three ears that are part of my rotation. I like to have brambles and ears of corn.
 

Pirin

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Indeed. But claiming they supply a better smoke than briar or Meers is sheer chutzpah or bald ignorance.
Hmmm. They smoke drier than briar and more organic than a Meer. Add to that the break in period and the price. Maybe our definitions for better are different.
I wouldn't argue that some briars may add a taste of their own. Or I should rather say skew the taste in a pleasing direction. Still, briar arrived on the scene for it looks not because of its smoking characteristics. With some work and patience many materials can smoke good.
 
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I really like cheap ballpoint pens over those more expensive, like Monte Blanc. I am familiar with how a Mont Blancs write, and I still prefer a cheap ballpoint.
I have a shelf full of $100 to $200 lighters, and I still prefer a Bic over all of them.
I will wear my $300 shoes to church or on business, if I have to impress someone, but I fully admit that they are not nearly as comfortable as my four year old Nikes. And, if given the option, I'd much rather wear flip flops or go barefoot.

But... I don't go to penmakers websites and start discussions about free ballpoint pens.
I generally just avoid the threads here concerning lighters, unless someone wants to know something about one that I happen to own. But, I don't post on every lighter thread that I use a Bic.
And, I certainly don't go to Men's Fashion Sites and post my love of flip flops or going barefoot.

Not, that there is anything wrong with cobs. If you like cobs, you are not a freak. It may be a little freaky to be so damn adamant about cobs. And, maybe posting on the higher end pie threads that everyone should have a cob is a little over the top.
I'm really glad that you know what you like. And, you could own thousands of them at the prices they go for. You are lucky. Enjoy your cobs, and think about what you've done here. puffy
 

Nhassey48

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I really like cheap ballpoint pens over those more expensive, like Monte Blanc. I am familiar with how a Mont Blancs write, and I still prefer a cheap ballpoint.
I have a shelf full of $100 to $200 lighters, and I still prefer a Bic over all of them.
I will wear my $300 shoes to church or on business, if I have to impress someone, but I fully admit that they are not nearly as comfortable as my four year old Nikes. And, if given the option, I'd much rather wear flip flops or go barefoot.

But... I don't go to penmakers websites and start discussions about free ballpoint pens.
I generally just avoid the threads here concerning lighters, unless someone wants to know something about one that I happen to own. But, I don't post on every lighter thread that I use a Bic.
And, I certainly don't go to Men's Fashion Sites and post my love of flip flops or going barefoot.

Not, that there is anything wrong with cobs. If you like cobs, you are not a freak. It may be a little freaky to be so damn adamant about cobs. And, maybe posting on the higher end pie threads that everyone should have a cob is a little over the top.
I'm really glad that you know what you like. And, you could own thousands of them at the prices they go for. You are lucky. Enjoy your cobs, and think about what you've done here. puffy
I’m not saying anything is better than anything else. I want to try and figure out what’s going on. I spent what I consider a lot of money on this new Sav and need advice. So far all my cobs smoke better. Like I said earlier, I REALLY want to like briars and am willing to do what I have to do get to that point...if possible.