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Lifer
May 12, 2015
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Carmel Valley, CA
It's not been 12 hours and this is a monstrous thread! I think a prize should be awarded the O.P.. But in reading it and his responses to others, I think much further acknowledgment of his savoir faire would possibly tip the scales, and cause him to expound on anything and everything.

The 50 years of accumulated wisdom with pipes is a good start, but just a start.

Thank you, Jesse!
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,005
50,336
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
I notice there’s nothing about tampers. I assume the old rusty hex bolt I use to tamp down the McClelland in my $5000 pipe is permissible?
As long as the rust is advanced enough to flake off into the tobacco it's perfectly acceptable. If it's acceptable for $300 vintage tins why wouldn't it be acceptable for tampers?
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,005
50,336
Southern Oregon
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Point number 5 gave me good results until today. I do not like crispy tobacco. The "moist" tobacco gives me a more intense or fresh taste. But as always this is a personal opinion according to my humble knowledge. I am not very convinced with point 8, a soft flame gives me a better result. Point number 10: The cleaning of the pipe, I think before the ash cake has an important thickness, so that it can be cleaned more easily.Regarding the price of pipes, I agree that quality and a job well done, has to raise its price. But I also believe that the prices are exorbitant. Nice review, happily grateful, we continue to learn. Thanks dear friend, sablebrush52................
The getting of wisdom taketh time. Eventually all will be revealed. I accept cash or wire transfer only.
 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,248
57,309
67
Sarasota Florida
jesse, I would be willing to bet a few bucks I may have smoked more bowls of tobacco than you in my over 20 years of smoking a pipe. I have been smoking at least 3-5 bowls a day where a piker like you maybe smokes one a day.
I will agree on almost all of your points except the one about high dollar carvers 1-4 grand blow away the 3-400 bucks a pipe guy's they just don't. I have smoked enough of each to dispute you on that one. Not one of my 6 Formers smoked better than my Rads or Howell's. I would also put Rainer Barbi and a couple others in that category. I dumped 3 gorgeous Peter Matzhold pipes as they all smoked like I was in Niagara Falls. It was such a shame as they were just beautiful.

I have never owned a pipe that sold for less than a hundred brand new, so I cannot comment but I would go with you on that one.

You should have also mentioned the flake tobacco and plugs smoke better than shags and similar cuts. Flakes, plugs and ropes are what the big boys smoke, not debatable.

Guys, try and remember that Jesse lives in California. All that smog has turned their brains to mush by the age of 30.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,005
50,336
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
jesse, I would be willing to bet a few bucks I may have smoked more bowls of tobacco than you in my over 20 years of smoking a pipe. I have been smoking at least 3-5 bowls a day where a piker like you maybe smokes one a day.
I will agree on almost all of your points except the one about high dollar carvers 1-4 grand blow away the 3-400 bucks a pipe guy's they just don't. I have smoked enough of each to dispute you on that one. Not one of my 6 Formers smoked better than my Rads or Howell's. I would also put Rainer Barbi and a couple others in that category. I dumped 3 gorgeous Peter Matzhold pipes as they all smoked like I was in Niagara Falls. It was such a shame as they were just beautiful.

I have never owned a pipe that sold for less than a hundred brand new, so I cannot comment but I would go with you on that one.

You should have also mentioned the flake tobacco and plugs smoke better than shags and similar cuts. Flakes, plugs and ropes are what the big boys smoke, not debatable.

Guys, try and remember that Jesse lives in California. All that smog has turned their brains to mush by the age of 30.
Harris,
Remember that adage about people who live in glass houses, you live in a State where the term "Florida Man" has become a meme.

When you've been at this for a while you get to meet and speak with a great many notables in the Hobby. And one of my favorite stories concerns a conversation I have with one such notable, a Doctor of Pipes and a collector of ultra high end pipes, such as Nordh, Ivarrson, and Chonowitsch among others. And I asked him if his Nordh's smoked better than any of his other pipes and his response was, "They smoke as well as my Grabows."

He spent the money not because they're a better performing pipe, but because he liked the looks, the exclusivity, and the cachet. Anyone who owns Big Name pipes gets instant respect.

And that's the point. If you are going to get any street cred you need to forget about substance and go with style, the flashier, the better. Who cares if some carvers are making pipes better than anything coming out of Scandinavia, for 1/10 the price. Where's the style and flash in that? When you can look at your family and choose to spend the money on an expensive pipe rather than on their need for food and shelter, that's style!

After 40 years in the entertainment business and a decade before that in fine jewelry I can tell you that image is everything. When you have gained enough life experience this will be come obvious to you.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,005
50,336
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
jesse, I would be willing to bet a few bucks I may have smoked more bowls of tobacco than you in my over 20 years of smoking a pipe. I have been smoking at least 3-5 bowls a day where a piker like you maybe smokes one a day.
You think this is something? @jiminks smokes that much while pouring milk over his cereal.
 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,248
57,309
67
Sarasota Florida
Harris,
Remember that adage about people who live in glass houses, you live in a State where the term "Florida Man" has become a meme.

When you've been at this for a while you get to meet and speak with a great many notables in the Hobby. And one of my favorite stories concerns a conversation I have with one such notable, a Doctor of Pipes and a collector of ultra high end pipes, such as Nordh, Ivarrson, and Chonowitsch among others. And I asked him if his Nordh's smoked better than any of his other pipes and his response was, "They smoke as well as my Grabows."

He spent the money not because they're a better performing pipe, but because he liked the looks, the exclusivity, and the cachet. Anyone who owns Big Name pipes gets instant respect.

And that's the point. If you are going to get any street cred you need to forget about substance and go with style, the flashier, the better. Who cares if some carvers are making pipes better than anything coming out of Scandinavia, for 1/10 the price. Where's the style and flash in that? When you can look at your family and choose to spend the money on an expensive pipe rather than on their need for food and shelter, that's style!

After 40 years in the entertainment business and a decade before that in fine jewelry I can tell you that image is everything. When you have gained enough life experience this will be come obvious to you.
Jesse ,I understand your points about the high end pipe guys. I personally have had no connections with them except for Fred Hanna. I know exactly what you mean as I had street cred for years in the cigar game. Everyone called me The Master, my collection was pretty impressive and being invited to Carlos Fuente's place in the DR put me at the top of the list.

I was also in the jewelry industry and represented around 6 mfgs. The House of Bangles was my favorite as they paid the best commissions and did it quickly. They are still in business but it must be the kids running it. I took a look at their stuff and it is still top of the line. That shit sold itself.

You are right about things being sold at high prices just because they exist. For example I sold a Sammy Sosa Opus Bat at and auction for the Dominican kids and got 300.00 for it. The first auction we held at cigar family raised over 100,000K and then every year after we brought in the cash. It was a great cause and anyone who wanted could fly down to see the work being done and then had a dinner with Carlito.

I see non of that in the pipe tobacco game. I would love to see the operations and how shit gets done. Are there people in third world countries working for a buck a day? Why not create events like I said above.

I almost forgot that in 1998 we started the Cigar Family celebration where we actually got to meet each other, hang out and drunk and tell war stories. These were good times . A pipe show is nice but talk about boring, going to the same place year after year gets old quickly. Gttta add some life to these things especially with smoking regulations goin the way they are. We could get way better deals in places like Cancun or Costa Rica or a million other places. That is what made cigarfamily celebration so cool.
 

craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
6,164
52,948
Minnesota USA
Would it be fair to say that any blend that has been discontinued is better than any blend still made? And worth an opening price of $185 USD per 1.75 oz tin? Negotiable upward at the buyer's pleasure?
Priceless... and then you can go on the Interwebs and parade your snaz with something very few other people apparently have. It's not about substance... perception is the key!
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,005
50,336
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Jesse ,I understand your points about the high end pipe guys. I personally have had no connections with them except for Fred Hanna. I know exactly what you mean as I had street cred for years in the cigar game. Everyone called me The Master, my collection was pretty impressive and being invited to Carlos Fuente's place in the DR put me at the top of the list.

I was also in the jewelry industry and represented around 6 mfgs. The House of Bangles was my favorite as they paid the best commissions and did it quickly. They are still in business but it must be the kids running it. I took a look at their stuff and it is still top of the line. That shit sold itself.

You are right about things being sold at high prices just because they exist. For example I sold a Sammy Sosa Opus Bat at and auction for the Dominican kids and got 300.00 for it. The first auction we held at cigar family raised over 100,000K and then every year after we brought in the cash. It was a great cause and anyone who wanted could fly down to see the work being done and then had a dinner with Carlito.

I see non of that in the pipe tobacco game. I would love to see the operations and how shit gets done. Are there people in third world countries working for a buck a day? Why not create events like I said above.

I almost forgot that in 1998 we started the Cigar Family celebration where we actually got to meet each other, hang out and drunk and tell war stories. These were good times . A pipe show is nice but talk about boring, going to the same place year after year gets old quickly. Gttta add some life to these things especially with smoking regulations goin the way they are. We could get way better deals in places like Cancun or Costa Rica or a million other places. That is what made cigarfamily celebration so cool.
You do realize I'm punking people with this thread, don't you?