I know it's meant in jest but it's one of the reasons new smokers quit or don't even try. They're led to believe there's more to it than just filling a pipe and smoking it.
4Noggins - Tobacconists - Missing In Action?
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I looked through YouTube and tried to find the various videos I have watched. It is rather time consuming. I found one that I can share. From that one you can probably track down others.
Pipe Smoking: An Unwritten Code of Behavior
Forgive me if this is the wrong place for this!
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OMG! This is the dude who got in a snit, quoting Patrick Henry, because he was obliged to fill out some paperwork to open an on line tobacco store! Yikes!
I found this video pretty damned unwatchable and called it a day after a few minutes. Maybe it's the audible click every time he bites down on the stem. Maybe it's the nervous way he smokes, keeping it billowing out like a freight train, between the clicks and yammers, but I just had to turn him off.
I smoke for the pleasure, flavor and relaxation of it and was feeling none of that watching this guy.
I have an image in my head from the West Coast Pipe Show.
A table of us enjoying our pipes in silent reflection. The casual observer might be excused for wondering if we were either mannequins or dead, since there was no obvious movement, but the acute observer would have noticed the tiniest wisp of smoke curling upward every once in a while, indicating signs of activity. Any of those gents at that table could have kept a bowl going for hours in that effortless manner, without the nervous need to keep puffing at it like one's life depends on it.
Youtube pipe videos can rot your brain, watch defensively.
To go back on track, I've experienced no problems with 4Noggins, but haven't done any business with them in a few years.
True, but there are also practices that make filling and smoking a pipe a more enjoyable experience. Without the Fez and smoking robe, nothing else matters.
I personally have never had a problem ordering from 4noggins. I'm also Canadian so I understand where Beowulf if coming from.
Never placed an order so no comment on service. The company is New York based and as a NY resident we are subjected to an Excise tax of 40 %, not thier fault but can’t afford to buy from them.
So, I’ll editorialize what I got from this thread…
(Insert vendor here) didn’t reply to my order inquiries within a week or two. They suck!
(Insert vendor here) sent me my order. I got it a couple weeks later. They rock!
I live in the Grand Duchy of Slobovia. I can’t get my tobacco. Thank God for (Insert vendor here).
“(Insert vendor here) customer service sucks”.
- You’re an Ahole, STFU…
Various ramblings about excise taxes, etc…
The End
(Insert vendor here) didn’t reply to my order inquiries within a week or two. They suck!
(Insert vendor here) sent me my order. I got it a couple weeks later. They rock!
I live in the Grand Duchy of Slobovia. I can’t get my tobacco. Thank God for (Insert vendor here).
“(Insert vendor here) customer service sucks”.
- You’re an Ahole, STFU…
Various ramblings about excise taxes, etc…
The End
Yep, that's the same guy. The faux Appalachian accent is really appalling.
I’m just a boy, standing in front of a pipe, asking it to love me.
satisfied customers are supposed to be the baseline though. It shouldn't be consider exemplary at all. And the thing is there is always going to be something that goes wrong, because that's life and they should be equipped to expect and handle it, instead of shrug and say shit happens.
OMG! This is the dude who got in a snit, quoting Patrick Henry, because he was obliged to fill out some paperwork to open an on line tobacco store! Yikes!
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oh my
I think you just agreed with me. The negatives are loud and brash online but the positives are quiet and returning customers keeps them open for business
My wife insisted I watch that. Glad I did.
“Nice firm buttocks!”
For those outside CONUS who wish to order from the states, they don't have much choice but to deal with them. Having no other options doesn't always equate to happy customers. Their former owner Rich Gotlieb trash talked members of several forums and gave the company enough of a bad name that many just dismissed 4noggins altogether.
it's like kissing. Not really all that much to figure out but still helpful to know a thing or two, and with both the best way to learn is just put it to your lips and get some experience.
yeah I think that's a bit of what's happening. I just was trying to say I kind of hate when people try to negate the negatives. Share the positives but just because Linda is nice to me doesn't mean she couldn't have been a big ole Seaward (think of that one phonetically, or just read it out loud) to Carol. Both should be noted certainly.
That said companies you're purchasing things from should tell you if there is a very real chance of certain things happening. Even if it's just so they can get less phone calls and e-mails. If you order something that isn't in stock we'll ship your order when that returns to stock. Gosh even in the earlier days of ordering online I had several companies contact me to ask if it's o.k. to delay an order a day or two or if I'd rather get a replacement (I usually just said give me a replacement, side note I noticed that if you said I don't care if the replacement is a little less then what I spent that they'd often go the other way and send something more pricey.
that's a great way to chase off customers. It's amazing how even if I agree with what the person trash talking says about a customer, it makes me feel uneasy like I have to worry about not only their judgement but them sharing a negative opinion of me with everyone. Doesn't sit well unless the person they're trash talking is super out of line, like they are a confirmed criminal scum (scum being the key word).
Well they burned me. Very unfortunate as I have defended them on this very thread. I've ordered tons of tobacco from them without a hitch in the past but I won't be ordering from them anymore. They shorted me a pound of Mac Baren navy flake on my order and won't respond to multiple emails or phone messages begging for a response. I gave them the chance to make it right but had to file a claim with my credit card company today.
