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TriedPiper

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 23, 2024
229
155
Western NY
If I were ever to give STG, money again, I would only do it over the phone and through Aimee in the P&C cs department.
Aimee is the best
Aimee is the best
You could also file a consumer complaint with PA Attorney General (Consumer Complaint - https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/submit-a-complaint/consumer-complaint/).

All Attorneys General offices offer voluntary mediation for consumer complaints regarding goods and services. Since the AG complaints ofter go to someone at corporate, you may have better luck.
Hmm... another great idea...
 

Lees65GTO

Can't Leave
Nov 29, 2022
332
271
81
Texas
It is really unfortunate so many members have had problems with P&C. I have purchased from P&C for many many years and have never had any problems. I guess maybe it depends on which day you place an order (luck of the draw 😀).
 

Jan 8, 2013
7,989
6,354
It is really unfortunate so many members have had problems with P&C. I have purchased from P&C for many many years and have never had any problems. I guess maybe it depends on which day you place an order (luck of the draw 😀).
It's very unfortunate actually. There was a time when P&C was one of the most recommended sites on the forum, right up there alongside Smokingpipes. That should tell you how far they've fallen. I've personally had no major issues with them other than less than stellar packaging procedures. But it's hard to look past all the problems others have had. Makes it feel like it's only a matter of time before my luck changes for the worst.
 

irishearl

Lifer
Aug 2, 2016
2,531
4,791
Kansas
If she’s just a CS phone jockey, then she’ll do as she is told, not tell them what to do.
Don't know if it was her I dealt with during my literal last fiasco with P&C. but when I finally reached a human there after my pipe order hadn't been shipped after a 3 week wait, she said she'd tell management I paid for the product so ship it out. It did shortly thereafter.
 

TriedPiper

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 23, 2024
229
155
Western NY
If this is the same Aimee that I'm thinking...she IS the best of the best. (I don't know any other Aimee's in the Pipe community eh hem circle, that spell the name that way.) There may be hope yet!
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
I‘ve ordered from P&C for over a decade. No issues. Yes, I know others have had issues. But then, I have a fairly low bar - which means I am content with most things and never seem to be bothered if things go less than expected. Par for the course. Orders come - sometimes slowly. Prices on some pipes I’ve ordered were fair enough. If you’re looking for something better than mediocrity - knock yourself out. That ship has sailed.
 

fMf Piper

Might Stick Around
Feb 8, 2025
81
70
I have only placed a few orders with P&C so far, but I've never had a problem either. I think people who have bad experiences are far more likely to post about it/tell others, than people who have good experiences.
 

Briarcutter

Lifer
Aug 17, 2023
2,085
11,641
U.S.A.
I‘ve ordered from P&C for over a decade. No issues. Yes, I know others have had issues. But then, I have a fairly low bar - which means I am content with most things and never seem to be bothered if things go less than expected. Par for the course. Orders come - sometimes slowly. Prices on some pipes I’ve ordered were fair enough. If you’re looking for something better than mediocrity - knock yourself out. That ship has sailed.
Slow shipping,out of stock items and poor CS is one thing but when a company charges you for items they do not ship is quit another. I believe several have posted similar situations. I can handle slow shipping and sub par CS as long as I get my item. I have never had a problem with PC, however some of the posted nightmares make me concerned to make another order.
 

NookersTheCat

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 10, 2020
746
3,687
NEPA
I returned a Nording Hunter that never got refunded...
After at least half a dozen CS claims over nearly 5 years I threatened them with a BBB filing... twice. The 2nd time finally came thru last month... don't give up.

Now I wonder how many years it'll take to be recompensated for the smashed jars in my last order... but at least they were "free" 🙄

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NookersTheCat

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 10, 2020
746
3,687
NEPA
Their website is garbage too. They only keep your order info for a couple years before deleting it (probably because it would give too much material for disputes).

I'm glad they finally "made it right" but now that they will have no differentiating factor or blends (except the Stanwell and Bjarne/Viking pipe lines) personally, I will be keeping it toward SP and the boutiques for any purchases going forward, even if they're Lane/STG products...
 
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Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
4,878
27,644
Connecticut, USA
I tried to place an order tonight for tobacco. Only the second time I have tried to order. The first time my bank rejected the purchase as the request came from Belize and was not the order price.

Tonight I first, I had to reset my password. Second, their program wouldn't allow me to put in a shipping address prior to checkout. I selected paypal and it picked up all the past (deleted from paypal) shipping addresses from paypal but not the current (some were others' I sent gifts to) . I had to edit the address and their system froze on me. I had to go back several pages then deleted the order from my account and signed out.

Their shipping charges are outrageous and take away any low price benefit. $12.99 for 3 day shipping and I am only two states away. I was ordering Sutliffe 507-C but can get the same amount of PS LNF from SmokingPipes.com with free shipping for less.

There will be no third attempt.
 

rick3wood

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 24, 2022
100
217
The Lone Star State
I tried to place an order tonight for tobacco. Only the second time I have tried to order. The first time my bank rejected the purchase as the request came from Belize and was not the order price.

Tonight I first, I had to reset my password. Second, their program wouldn't allow me to put in a shipping address prior to checkout. I selected paypal and it picked up all the past (deleted from paypal) shipping addresses from paypal but not the current (some were others' I sent gifts to) . I had to edit the address and their system froze on me. I had to go back several pages then deleted the order from my account and signed out.

Their shipping charges are outrageous and take away any low price benefit. $12.99 for 3 day shipping and I am only two states away. I was ordering Sutliffe 507-C but can get the same amount of PS LNF from SmokingPipes.com with free shipping for less.

There will be no third attempt.
12.99 for shipping doesn’t sound that bad
 
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Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
4,878
27,644
Connecticut, USA
12.99 for shipping doesn’t sound that bad
First class mail in all of New England is at most 3 days delivery but they are saying 8-14 days and don't give me that option. So apparently it takes 1-11 days to go from PA to NJ next door then 3 days to me. But if I want 3 day I have to pay $12.99 vs $5.99. It seems like something is wrong with that. Just 2 cent opinion.