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Washington Tobacconists Look to Allow Cigar, Pipe Smoking in Stores & Lounges

The State of Washington soon may be joining 46 other states regarding smoking ban exemptions for retail tobacco shops and 33 other states exempting cigar lounges from smoking bans, according to local and national groups supporting the exemptions.

Called the Cigar Lounge Bills, HB 1683 and SB 5542 would allow a limited number of endorsements to qualifying cigar lounges and retail tobacconist shops holding retail tobacco products licenses. The House bill is scheduled for a hearing today, Thursday, February 10 at 8:00 a.m. in House Hearing Room 8 of the John L. O’Brien Building in Olympia. The Senate companion bill is scheduled for a hearing by the Labor, Commerce & Consumer Protection Committee at 10:00 a.m. on February 17.

The bills have the support of several local and international cigar-oriented groups led by the Cigar Association of Washington (CAW). Other groups backing the bills are the Seattle Pipe Club, International Premium Cigar & Pipe Retailers Association, the Cigar Association of America and Cigar Rights of America. The groups are calling on Washington residents to show their support for the bills by contacting their respective state legislators.

"All Washington voters – especially premium cigar retailers, cigar smokers, pipe smokers, and non-smokers, as well – should tell their state legislators to vote for these bills because jobs and businesses are at stake as well as significant state revenues which will be generated primarily through licenses and sales tax revenues," said Joe Arundel, owner of Rain City Cigar in Seattle and spokesperson for the CAW.

Arundel calls the bills, "small accommodations of fairness to the current draconian statewide smoking ban which prohibits smoking in public places and should not include cigar and pipe smoking in locations that are dedicated to that purpose."

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Arundel pointed out that no more than 100 cigar lounge endorsements and 500 retail tobacco shops throughout the state would qualify for the exemption in any calendar year while the license and user fees are expected to raise some $4 million of which $3.8 million will go to the Passport to College Program while the state liquor board will receive $200,000 to administer the program.

To qualify, cigar lounges and retail tobacco shops must show the liquor board they meet stringent new requirements that include the following:

  • Physically separated from other areas by solid walls or windows and have self-closing doors
  • Contain certified ventilation and exhaust systems
  • Allow cigars or pipe tobacco to be smoked in the designated areas
  • Post signs indicating cigar and pipe tobacco smoking is permitted on the premises
  • Not allow anyone underage to enter the establishment
  • Obtain signed acknowledgments from employees who understand that cigar and pipe smoking is permitted on the premises
  • Meet strict sales and inventory standards

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    Tommy
  • February 10, 2011
Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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    fred
  • February 11, 2011
It sounds reasonable... Hopefully, things will work out.
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Hope this passes and turns the tide in other states.
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    Kevin
  • February 12, 2011
Even if this passes, they sure aren't making it easy for tobacconists and lounges.
In addition to the requirements above, I just found out the following:
The cost of applying for the state endorsement wouldn't be cheap: $15,000 for cigar lounges, and $5,000 for tobacco stores. The stores would have to pay the fee every year to renew their endorsements.
Wow!
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    whitecloud
  • February 13, 2011
I believe that the owner of a business should be able to choose what goes on in the business. I believe that if I own a restaurant I should be able to choose whether it allows amoking or not. After all, one's income is dependant on the numner of customers that the business attracts and one should be able to have control over their property and business. I know that in West Virginia the bars serve 3.2 beer and you have to go to a "private club" to get hard liquor. All you do is go into a private club and give them $2 to join and you can sit down and order a hard drink. There must be some way to get around the smoking law by making the smoking room a private club where members can sit and enjoy a smoke. Why would one have a "gentleman's club" or a "smoking club" when the members aren't allowed to smoke....it wouldn't make sense. At the least, the establishment of a private club would not be covered under the new law and therefore not be aplicable. I think it's worth looking into. Just a thought.
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    Mark Ison
  • September 4, 2011
I am a 57 year old man who has been smoking cigars for about 10 years. I smoke cigars only on my own property but would like to enjoy a cigar now and then with other cigar enthusiasts in a social setting such as a private club. Why is that such a big deal? Since I have not always been a smoker, I really do understand the general public's aversion to second hand smoke but why should they be able to prevent me from smoking in a closed environment? Have we become so intolerant and politically correct that we have the right to dictate the private consumption of a legal substance in a private setting? And to force the owners of smoking establishments to pay the government outrageous licensing fees? I feel that the goverment is sticking it's ever growing nose way too far into my private life and my rights as a citizen of this country. How infuriating and how sad! So I say to my fellow smokers: Stand up and fight!
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