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Finally A Tin Of Penzance

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  1. lifesizehobbit

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    Found a tin of Penzance (limited to one) at tonights Dayton Pipe Club meeting at The Wharf.

    Looking forward to trying it.

    Dave "Black Frigate Stowaway"
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    Congrats. Hope you enjoy it.

    And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl proved the strongest man at last
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    Ehh

    Nowhere in the world will such a brotherly feeling of confidence be experienced as amongst those who sit together smoking their pipes
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    Ehh

    I get it; it's been raved about so much that I figured I had to try a tin. If I don't like it, someone at random gets an almost full tin.

    I actually turned down the opportunity to try Black Frigate last night from a sample tin. I'm a bit nic sensitive and it's tin note was pretty strong. I know, I know - Penzance is rated stronger in Nic too, but I figured one thing to try.

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    I don't find either to be heavy in nicotine, but Penzance is a bit heavy in the Latakia for me. I keep it around to add spice to other blends, but really don't care for it on its own.

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    I got a tin of it yesterday. I havnt smoked any yet, and while Im aware of the hype and impending letdown, for me I feel the fun of these hard to get blends is in the hunt.

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    Take it for what it is and enjoy it (or not). You can't smell or taste hype.

    A very interesting exercise is to line up a bunch of new cobs with similar blends. Number the cobs on the bottom, switch them around so that you don't know what you will be smoking at any given time, and sample. I've done this with the plethora of Orlik/suspected Orlik Va and Va-Per flakes. Started by rubbing them out and putting them in numbered dishes so I can sniff at them before loading and lighting.

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    I hope that you enjoy Penzance.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

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    Congrats! Everyone remembers their first time; I hope it's magical for you, sir.

    I'll share a wise bit of advice that a fellow member suggested to me: just give Penzance a fair chance; and then, if underwhelmed, jar it up, and then give it one more try down the line, just to make sure.

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    ^ excellent advice. And just remember it is only tobacco......really good tobacco.

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    +1 on jarring up a little. Personally I seem to like it best with a little age on it. Also, my favorite aspect of Penzance is the tongue-lacquer.

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    Yeah it sticks with you like an aged cheese.

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    I found it to be smooth with an excellent taste and aftertaste which lingered pleasantly. To me, it tasted like a well kept woman. True story.

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    Congrats! Everyone remembers their first time; I hope it's magical for you, sir.

    I really don't. To me it tasted exactly like Pirate Kake, so no great memorable moment.

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    I've heard that story Mayfair. It is R rated.

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    woodsroad that's a great idea! I'll set that up soon

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    I'll share a wise bit of advice that a fellow member suggested to me: just give Penzance a fair chance; and then, if underwhelmed, jar it up, and then give it one more try down the line, just to make sure.

    Good advice. I bought a bag in 2006 and didn't like it, so I jarred it. 8 years later, I opened the jar, packed a bowl, and hated it just as much.

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    ^ Well at least you know for sure.

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    Always trust you first experience, especially with Penzance and many Esoterica ''tobaccos''. It's a shame as the Germain's offerings are incredible in comparison. Maybe they put the leftovers and spray them with their ''secret recipe'' and voila a new line of tobaccos that people will go to great lengths to acquire. I had a Penzance tin that was aged and all, I gave it other pipe smokers, you should have seen the look on their faces.

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    [quote]"A very interesting exercise is to line up a bunch of new cobs with similar blends. Number the cobs on the bottom, switch them around so that you don't know what you will be smoking at any given time, and sample. I've done this with the plethora of Orlik/suspected Orlik Va and Va-Per flakes. Started by rubbing them out and putting them in numbered dishes so I can sniff at them before loading and lighting"

    I like this idea. I often wonder if I could tell blends apart without the labels. I know some that would be easy, but then there are those that are very similar, and may be a bit more difficult.

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    Always trust you first experience, especially with Penzance and many Esoterica ''tobaccos''.

    Glad Esoterica wasn't the first thing I smoked. If it were, I would have shot my pipe. Horrid stuff.

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    A first smoke usually decides if I drop that tobacco or not. I used to give chances to Penzance and the like, I ended up wasting time and a ruined smoking session is not funny.

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    a ruined smoking session is not funny

    +100

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    I've heard that story Mayfair. It is R rated.

    I thought it was X rated, actually. My apologies for being vulgar, ladies and gentlemen. This is why I don't do reviews, or get invited to dinner, or have friends.

    After all the hubbub over Penzance, I found it to be a solid smoke with subtle and very satisfying qualities. If it weren't for its scarcity, I would make it an everyday smoke.

    I'll be trying Pirate Kake for sure.

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    Lancer Slices is a close cousin too.

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    It's funny you say this, Lancer's Slices is one of my favorite tobaccos and Pirate Kake is one of the most amazing Lat bomb but the additives in Penzance kills it for me. I guess you can only case and top so much before it becomes counterproductive.

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    Lancer Slices is a close cousin too.

    Thanks Cap !!

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    Sounds like I need some Pirate Kake and Lancer Slices.

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    Thanks Cap !!

    Very welcome!

    Sounds like I need some Pirate Kake and Lancer Slices.

    Pirate Kake is a bit lat heavy, but good nonetheless.

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    Sounds like I need some Pirate Kake and Lancer Slices.

    You can add Ten to Midnight to that list as well

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    I love Penzance, but it's still one of the most overrated tobacco's out there. It's a great blend, but it's not worth what people buy it for on ebay, nor is it worth the hunt to track it down. If it comes available and is at a suggested retail price then I'll grab some more otherwise I just enjoy other blends.

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    Penzance is a top-shelve blend along with a long list of others.

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    Congratulations for You finally being able to acquire some Penzance Tobacco.I myself find all of their tobaccos to be of stellar

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    Congratulations for You finally being able to acquire some Penzance Tobacco.I myself find all of their tobaccos to be of stellar quality. You have gotten a fine English Tobacco that no one has been able to duplicate yet though many claim to have duplicated Germains Formula.In the world of Tobacco this is surely one of the greats.

    JON

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    Please add C&D's Star of the East to the list of cousins. (Somebody wrote years ago that it was an affordable and available alternative to Penzance.)

    Here's four recommended "sorta', kinda', in the ballpark, almost, but not quite, well, maybe" blends in the Penzance profile:

    1. Pirate Kake
    2. Lancer's Slices
    3. Ten to Midnight
    4. Star of the East

    I prefer any of the four to Penzance.

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    that no one has been able to duplicate

    Thank goodness. (blech)

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    Thank goodness. (blech)

    Don't get him started again

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    Now that we have our quarterly Penzance bashing thread out of the way, back to our regularly scheduled program .....

    "Each of you be a light unto yourself; betake yourself to no external refuge. Hold fast to the Truth. Look not for refuge to anyone beside yourself." -The Buddha
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    "Quarterly?" You mean weekly!

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    It's almost comical how folks preach about "smoke what you like", but then the word Penzance is mentioned and it all goes out the window. It's just a lightning rod for controversy. Smoking it now in a Poul Hansen lovat and it's still one of the best blends ever to hit my tongue. By comparison Lancer's Slices is like a blunt instrument to me. Lucky for the blenders that we each experience flavors differently.

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    I just love how everyone whines about the price. I bought a pound just last week for $45 per 8 ounce bag, which comes out to exactly $9.90 per 1.76 oz (50 gram) tin. Oh the horror of the "overpriced" Esoterica blends.

    (I bought 3 bags of Stonehaven at that same price).

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    Kinda late to this thread, but a note of caution to those trying Penzance for the first time: It comes in very moist, like all Esotericas. (over 90% RH) Drying it down significantly is advised.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    It's almost comical how folks preach about "smoke what you like", but then the word Penzance is mentioned and it all goes out the window

    Thanks for saying this troutface. I respect everyone's opinion and different tastes but I resent the insinuation that anyone who enjoys Penzance is only buying into the hype and jumping on the bandwagon. If that was the case the same could be said of several other blends which seem to be favorites of forum members. Personally I am very thankful to the forum member who first shared Penzance with me and I have since found it not that hard to acquire at fairly reasonable prices. But that is just my opinion.

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    It's almost comical how folks preach about "smoke what you like", but then the word Penzance is mentioned and it all goes out the window

    I think it's a fine blend. The hype is ridiculous, people who have never tried it may have some unrealistic expectations because of this. I enjoy a bowl occasionally but have yet to experience the Angels singing or Unicorns farting YMMV.

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    Yay! Put it in a jar for a year and then take a big whiff. Like a burning tire pit. Great stuff!

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    Better than a burning armpit, I always say.

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    Well, that is true.

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    As mentioned, a very good tobacco in a world with many very good tobaccos. I have an opened tin jarred up and a sealed tin, plus an 8 oz bag I picked up at my tobacconist's place not long ago. Very good? Yes. Would I pay any more than msrp? Nah. I would hate for Penzance to be my favorite tobacco - that would suck for the supply/hoarding/ebay speculating issues that exist. I'll crack the other tin in 3-4 months, maybe the bag towards the end of summer.

    If more falls in my lap in the next year, that would be sweet, however, no sleep lost here if I never have any more in my cellar.

    However, if you have an opportunity to purchase some, how can you not? And when you do have those opportunities, it does make you feel pretty good, certainly if it is your first time.

    Penzance - nothing bad to say about it. For the ebay tobacco speculators and hoarders that seem to feel life is not complete without 5lbs of the stuff cellared, however, well, that is what Hype does to people and things, including a high quality tobacco, like Penzance, and where I might have bad things to say, lol ...

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    I like it. Glad it is in current production. I have my share so I'm set. Right now I could live without it, but I don't have to. Not really in the current rotation more than a couple few times a month. I agree with the notion that there is no need to knock it.

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    Tried my first bowl and I thought it was good. Id smoke it again, and would buy another tin if I ran into it. The best part is that having tried it. I dont have to think about wanting to find it anymore. Ive moved on, and its back to business as usual.

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    Having a lingering sinus thing (and that I mostly smoke outdoors), I've yet to take advantage of my find (which I purchased at normal retail). I have to say that as an automotive enthusiast, PattyThePerfect's endorsement

    ...Like a burning tire pit...
    has me fully intrigued.

    So I still don't know if I'll like it or not, but if I don't, I'm sure I'll find a gift recipient somewhere.

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    Theory: Some old bloke somewhere was quite popular around the forums. He had a love for Penzance, and would pay anything for it, (There has to be a tobacco we would pay almost anything for, it's our favorite go to blend) Next thing you know because the bloke is so popular everyone wants to smoke what he smokes, some fall in love with the Penzance, some not so much. Supply and demand enters the equation, the stuff becomes hard to get and here we are. A blend that some love, some could live without, and others hate. Hype! Where's that old popular bastard now?

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    I was lucky enough to grab one tin online. I was really hoping the rumours were true, and that it would be overrated and not to my liking. I was very disappointed to find that I liked it quite a bit. I've been rationing those 2oz's but they are all but gone now.

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    Skip tells me that even in the pre-forum world of the 70's, that Esotericas were all the rage. They didn't sell out as fast, but when guys would see that Penzance was in stock, they'd buy it up as fast as they could. The only difference is that back then he would sell out in a few days, but today, they sell out in one phone call.

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    True, Penzance is not something that will "service" you while you smoke it, but it is an enjoyable smoke. That's not to say there aren't others equal in quality.... or more so. I have an almost constant access to Penzance at $13 a tin and There are more cost effective english blends there as well... I gravitate to Penzance because I really enjoy it.

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    Good to hear you were able to pick up a tin and at a good price to boot.
    I hope you enjoy it...let us know what you think you get a chance to try it.

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    So even since I've posted this, I've still had this nasty sinus thing. It's finally starting to clear, so I'm hoping for a test fire this weekend.

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    AT LAST!!!! Pulled out my Nording Calabash, rubbed out some Penzance, packed a bowl and sat on the back porch. Admittedly my pipe tobacco palate is immature, but I will say that I enjoyed the smooth nature of Penzance. My wife sat on the back porch with me and commented that she loved the aroma; she's not stuck on "cherries" and "vanillas" as aroma kings and finds many English blends palatable.

    Would I seek high & low, risking jail in a 3rd world country for Penzance? No, but based on my first bowl ever, I can see getting through the tin before making that final call.

    Puff on fellow pipers.

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    Glad you're enjoying it. I did years ago, but just seems a bit flat and heavy handed on the Latakia to me. Have given a few pounds to friends, and keep it around for mixing now.

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    Glad you got to crack into the tin. Ive been alternating between Quiet Nights and Penzance. I like Penzance, and think that its super creamy, but Quiet Nights has a bit more of that oriental twang that my tongue craves.

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    I got a tin of Penzance. I think it is a very good tobacco, from the good "mechanic" (easy to pack, easy to light, not too many relights) and definitely you can feel it is used top notch quality leaves. If you like oriental forward blends it is not going to disappoint. What I would prefer is to have a version of it with Syrian Latakia instead of the Cyprian one as I love Syrian and for me is is calling for it. But it is a matter of personal taste.
    Is this the holy grail of pipe tobacco? I wouldn't say so but if you like orientals it is not going to disappoint.
    Will I buy more of it? Yes, but not at an overprice. I wanted to try it so I opened the wallet to get a first tin and it will go in my rotation, now I have time to find more of it at a more decent price.

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    @lifesizehobbit...good to hear you finally were able to sample your tin of Penzance and also good to hear it was a pleasurable smoking experience for you.

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