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johnmosesbrowning

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Aug 5, 2018
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I'm all about supporting my local brick and mortar pipe and tobacco resource, but I'm feeling like there's a bit of gouging here. "Basket Pipes" (including MM cobs with stickers still on them) are $40. Their bulk blends are exceptionally expensive as well. They're selling HGL that they've added some (how much, I don't know) perique to for $10/ounce.
Am I being unreasonable thinking this place is a bit steep even for a B&M?

 

olkofri

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Sep 9, 2017
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Prices do seem a bit steep. For a moment there I thought you were in Canada, where 1 oz is ~$20. The basket pipes in my local B&M are $35 CAD, but they only have briars there. I won't pay more than $10 USD for a cob, unless it's a very especial one.

 

woodsroad

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Oct 10, 2013
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What state do you live in? State taxes on tobacco can double the prices that you'd pay online. Add to that the increased overhead of running a small shop and the costs add up.
And, for what it's worth, nobody has ripped you off if they haven't been deceptive and/or if you haven't actually bought anything from them.

 

johnmosesbrowning

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Aug 5, 2018
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I'm in Michigan and I don't think it's the taxes because I've gotten 1Q and BCA at another location for ~$4-5/ounce.

 

mau1

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Jan 5, 2018
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Could be that they are struggling to stasy in business and have jacked up the prices to stay afloat.

 

cosmicfolklore

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Aug 9, 2013
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Ohh, here we go again.

"Gouging, rip off, unfair!" Sir, there is nothing preventing you from turning around and walking out, or did they stop you at the door, take your wallet, rough you up a bit, and toss you out the door?

Some places are just more expensive to operate. Suck it up and pay it, or leave. There is really no call for slamming one of the nation's last tobacco B&Ms, because you are insulted by something that no one is forcing you to pay.
You have the option to shop online or anywhere else you prefer.

 

ashdigger

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Jul 30, 2016
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A friend of mine used to own a small engine repair shop and while there one day a customer walks in looking for chain saw chain.
So my buddy asks the particulars and with that proceeds to cut the chain to length and then wraps it in heavy butcher paper.
He tells to customer the final cost and the customer freaks out and exclaims, "I can get the same thing from Mail Order for a lot cheaper.
My buddy then says that he'll match the price of the Mail Order place. Now the customer is excited.
Then my buddy places the package containing the chain back on the shelf behind him and tells the customer. Come back in 3-5 days and you can pick the chain up, since that's the standard shipping time.
I loved it. The customer stormed out.

 

warren

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Sep 13, 2013
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Am I being unreasonable thinking this place is a bit steep even for a B&M?
Not having seen their books I can't possibly answer your question. Neither can anyone else here. If you feel their prices are high, I suggest not shopping there.

 

johnmosesbrowning

Junior Member
Aug 5, 2018
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[/quote]Ohh, here we go again.

"Gouging, rip off, unfair!" Sir, there is nothing preventing you from turning around and walking out, or did they stop you at the door, take your wallet, rough you up a bit, and toss you out the door?

Some places are just more expensive to operate. Suck it up and pay it, or leave. There is really no call for slamming one of the nation's last tobacco B&Ms, because you are insulted by something that no one is forcing you to pay.
You have the option to shop online or anywhere else you prefer.
Michael

Wow! Hostile much? I believe I posed it as a question as I'm not familiar with what other people experience at their own B&M and whether or not this degree of mark up is "typical" Geesh, so much for your friendly neighborhood place for newbies to ask questions. Good day to you sir.
 

mechanic

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Dec 1, 2018
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Closest thing i have to a b&m near me is a cigarette shop that has 4 or 5 renamed lane blends they have the lane names listed on jars under there store brand names for around $3 a ounce the dont have any tobacco pipes that are not made of glass.

 

johnmosesbrowning

Junior Member
Aug 5, 2018
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Conflate much?
Apologies for believing that "here we go again" type jacka**ery doesn't belong in a forum set aside for "beginners"

 

woodsroad

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Oct 10, 2013
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I'm referring to you condemning the entire forum for one response that you found to be offensive.

 

johnmosesbrowning

Junior Member
Aug 5, 2018
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I quoted the offending response, I apologize if others thought I was referring to anything other than the person I specifically quoted.

 

hoosierpipeguy

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Jan 28, 2018
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To answer the OP's question, that seems a bit high. B&M's will always be higher than online as they have to be. They're not doing the volume and have overhead costs an online shop doesn't have. As mentioned, some states have punitive tobacco taxes (FL, IL and WA come to mind, I'm sure there are others).
If I go into a B&M, they have a nice smoking lounge and the people are nice, I'll buy a few things at their marked up price to justify using their facilities. If I find the prices to be at the gouging level, I'm likely to hang around long enough to be polite and leave. I own a business and would be 10 x more upset if we are ever the lowest price than to find out we lost a job because we were the highest priced. It depends on what you're actually selling and in the OP's case, it depends on what you're actually buying.
I'm generally not walking into a B&M actually looking for tobacco or pipes. In today's society where places to comfortably relax and smoke are scarce, I feel like I'm buying a comfortable chair for an hour or three. If the price for that chair comes in the form of paying $10 an ounce for some tobacco, I feel like I found a bargain. Of course, I could stand outside the hotel in the freezing cold and enjoy the $5 I saved.

 

johnmosesbrowning

Junior Member
Aug 5, 2018
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That doesn't read like you are referring to just one person.
At what point can I insert the beating of a dead horse gif on your behalf?

 

mau1

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Jan 5, 2018
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Canada
To be fair to the OP, he's new and most likely isn't aware of the strong support for B&M's here. In comparison to another B&M in his area, he found the prices high.