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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
Heres my fishing gun, an el cheapo (Taurus G3). I put a 15 dollar chinese light/laser on her, the name of the light is "Solofish" so it just made sense.

I always take one fishing. People keep feeding the gators and they keep getting closer and closer.

The gators never used to worry me, but the numbers continue to grow. There's basically no hunting season for them. We all used to know not to feed them. Now we have lots of out of towners trying to get up close to 'em.

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Here's one of our gators.

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The first time I visited Florida, I saw all those alligators crossing sidewalks and such.

And I thought to myself that if there had been gators in the Ozarks, the darling wives of the pioneer farmers would have ordered the extermination of those huge lizards lest they eat a stray child, entirely and utterly.:)
 

Richmond B. Funkenhouser

Plebeian Supertaster
Dec 6, 2019
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The first time I visited Florida, I saw all those alligators crossing sidewalks and such.

And I thought to myself that if there had been gators in the Ozarks, the darling wives of the pioneer farmers would have ordered the extermination of those huge lizards lest they eat a stray child, entirely and utterly.:)

They were gone from here... If they ever were here in the first place.

50 or 60 years ago the powers that be reintroduced them. Maybe the pioneers had run 'em off.
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
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They were gone from here... If they ever were here in the first place.

50 or 60 years ago the powers that be reintroduced them. Maybe the pioneers had run 'em off.

Legend holds that St Patrick killed all the snakes in Ireland. That was because Ireland, didn’t have a Missouri Department of Conservation.:)

Young boys using .22 rifles killed the last whitetail deer in the Ozarks before the year 1900, so their mothers could raise gardens and make butter.

Then in 1938 the MDC brought them back.

Our first modern firearms deer season was 1960.

I cannot imagine Florida mothers would have spared those gators, either.
 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,621
18,089
If concealment is not a factor, I highly recommend a Ruger Redhawk 5 1/2” with an action Job to slick up the trigger pull.

Most rounds I’ve used in this are 44 Special “Skeeter” loads, but it will handle full max 44 magnums as many as you want to beat yourself up shooting.:)

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Should I ever need service, Ruger will service it. That’s another plus for the Redhawk.

Rugers are great guns, but I'm partial to S&W, and I definitely don't need another 44.
 

Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
6,570
89,665
Casa Grande, AZ
Here’s my maternal great-grandfather’s concealed carry: an Iver Johnson Safety Automatic 32 SW. Being a second edition I only fire black powder reloads.
Dr Moutoux carried this in his pocket or house call bag, during his illustrious career. There’s a wing at Indiana University Medical Center named after the good doctor.

My oldest pipe, a ‘27-31 Kaywoodie 7204 Suntan Rock Amber was at least 30 years old when the revolver was new😉
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Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
6,570
89,665
Casa Grande, AZ
@Briar Lee, Ruger does make great revolvers but the original Redhawk with its shared trigger/mainspring would not be counted by me as one of them. Two trips to Ruger couldn’t fix light strikes with this one:
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It’s been supplanted in the role of “anything that might need a killin’ be it man or beast” role by the S&W 629-4 Mountain Gun I pre-inherited from my father-pictured with, speaking of alligators, the gun I carry when I’m not carry a gun: a Diamondback DB-9. The alligator connection is that Diamondback (like KelTec) is a company that made airboats in FL.
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240gr hard cast Keith SWC “Skeeter” loads (I use HP38, not Unique though) are what I too (along with my orthopedic surgeon) prefer to shoot.

The DB9 gets crap reviews, but I’ve got over 1000 124gr jhp rounds through it just fine training, and it fits in a back pocket “wallet” holster.
 
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instymp

Lifer
Jul 30, 2012
2,508
1,305
The first time I visited Florida, I saw all those alligators crossing sidewalks and such.

And I thought to myself that if there had been gators in the Ozarks, the darling wives of the pioneer farmers would have ordered the extermination of those huge lizards lest they eat a stray child, entirely and utterly.:)
They still do.
 

Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
6,570
89,665
Casa Grande, AZ
@Briar Lee, Ruger does make great revolvers but the original Redhawk with its shared trigger/mainspring would not be counted by me as one of them. Two trips to Ruger couldn’t fix light strikes with this one:
View attachment 369268
It’s been supplanted in the role of “anything that might need a killin’ be it man or beast” role by the S&W 629-4 Mountain Gun I pre-inherited from my father-pictured with, speaking of alligators, the gun I carry when I’m not carry a gun: a Diamondback DB-9. The alligator connection is that Diamondback (like KelTec) is a company that made airboats in FL.
View attachment 369269
240gr hard cast Keith SWC “Skeeter” loads (I use HP38, not Unique though) are what I too (along with my orthopedic surgeon) prefer to shoot.

The DB9 gets crap reviews, but I’ve got over 1000 124gr jpg rounds through it just fine training, and it fits in a back pocket “wallet” holster.
I hear newer Redhawks have the awesome spring system used in the GP/SP lines. If that had been the case with mine, I’d now have two 44’s😉
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
Here’s my paternal great-grandfather’s concealed carry: an Iver Johnson Safety Automatic 32 SW. Being a second edition I only fire black powder reloads.
Dr Moutoux carried this in his pocket or house call bag, during his illustrious career. There’s a wing at Indiana University Medical Center named after the good doctor.

My oldest pipe, a ‘27-31 Kaywoodie 7204 Suntan Rock Amber was at least 30 years old when the revolver was new😉
View attachment 369267
Factoid about modern medicine:

Before penicillin, modern medicine reached about the same level it is today for a general practice doctor in 1890.

That is to say, when the kindly doctor arrived in his horse drawn buggy he was not a quack.

When Franklin Roosevelt was the leader of the free world in 1944, his doctors correctly diagnosed congestive heart failure and prescribed digitalis and nitroglycerin and told him to cut back on Camels. Exactly the same as they did my mother in 2006, when she got the same diagnosis, except Mama didn’t smoke.:)

The good doctor probably selected an Owl Head because of safety concerns.

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Cheap imitations of the geniune Iver Johnson led to a price war where copies fell as low as $2, likely leading to the saying, hotter than a two dollar pistol.

It was the Glock of the late nineteenth century.

Two things killed the Owl Head revolvers.

First, the Model T. Men no longer needed a pistol under their blankets or in their jacket pockets. They drove past danger.

Second, laws requiring permits to buy handguns. They no longer would pay five dollars to buy a little gun.
 
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FurCoat

Lifer
Sep 21, 2020
10,520
96,683
North Carolina
If concealment is not a factor, I highly recommend a Ruger Redhawk 5 1/2” with an action Job to slick up the trigger pull.

Most rounds I’ve used in this are 44 Special “Skeeter” loads, but it will handle full max 44 magnums as many as you want to beat yourself up shooting.:)

View attachment 369103

Should I ever need service, Ruger will service it. That’s another plus for the Redhawk.
Such an elegant gun.
 
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Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
6,570
89,665
Casa Grande, AZ
Factoid about modern medicine:

Before penicillin, modern medicine reached about the same level it is today for a general practice doctor in 1890.

That is to say, when the kindly doctor arrived in his horse drawn buggy he was not a quack.

When Franklin Roosevelt was the leader of the free world in 1944, his doctors correctly diagnosed congestive heart failure and prescribed digitalis and nitroglycerin and told him to cut back on Camels. Exactly the same as they did my mother in 2006, when she got the same diagnosis, except Mama didn’t smoke.:)

The good doctor probably selected an Owl Head because of safety concerns.

View attachment 369272

Cheap imitations of the geniune Iver Johnson led to a price war where copies fell as low as $2, likely leading to the saying, hotter than a two dollar pistol.

It was the Glock of the late nineteenth century.

Two things killed the Owl Head revolvers.

First, the Model T. Men no longer needed a pistol under their blankets or in their jacket pockets. They drove past danger.

Second, laws requiring permits to buy handguns. They no longer would pay five dollars to buy a little gun.
I was gonna post that advert with my post. I love that everyone credits Glock with “inventing” the same style of trigger safety.
I’m not sure about the second reason you give regarding the demise of the owl head-the research I’ve done shows Iver Johnson lost large market share when millions of similar small revolvers began flooding the market at the turn of the century as soon as cordite, then smokeless powder, in more effective cartridges became ubiquitous across the country. Yes, Sullivan was enacted in 1911 in NY (and many other states that probably would have been happy to stay subjects rather than citizens 150 years followed suit), but struck down as unconstitutional eleven years later.
More than half the nation to this day doesn’t require handgun permits.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
I hear newer Redhawks have the awesome spring system used in the GP/SP lines. If that had been the case with mine, I’d now have two 44’s😉

My Redhawk was made in 1984, and was worked by some famous Ruger smith out West, and polished with Simachrome, and has optional Ruger rear V and front brass bead sights.

In any event, a friend of mine loaned $500 on it at his pawn shop and I paid him $650 to have it as a “lookie at my Dirty Harry big 44” type piece, and it’s wonderful at that.

But when I go into Spout Spring Hollow alone I pack a pair of 44 Special Flattop with Keith loads.

I just added a Rossi 92 in 44 to the costume.:)

When I make a turn from the abandoned road onto my easement across the old road nobody knows how old, there still grows a bush planted my Mrs Greenville Nolan, who was raped by 18 Jayhawkers, and her husband murdered, the cabin burned, the stock stolen, and her two small children ran crying to a member of the 8th Missouri State Militia on patrol, on March 24, 1862. Upon arriving back in Humansville leaving the children in the care of other Christian women, 18 Jayhawkers had joined Union forces there, with lots of freshly slaughtered pork and beef.

How do you think that worked out, for those 18 raping, theiving, murdering Jawhawkers?

My friend Matt Keller recites the basic facts of the Battle of Humansville, two days later.

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But it was my great grandmother Paralee (or one of her sisters) who led the Jawhawkers to justice in Spout Spring Hollow on a dancing gray pony.

It was there, they faced Mrs Nolan.

Alva Rains said one Jayhawker almost got away, made it close to where the sawmill stands today.

It isn’t nice to wear United States uniforms for a nefarious purpose, not at all.

Just inside the gate, Alva said all 18 Jawhawkers sleep in an unmarked mass grave.


The men of the 8th Missouri, were quite civilized.

Their women were much more dangerous and unpredictable and bloodthirsty.:)

When I sit on Paralee’s Rock, a worthy grandson ought to be well armed, you know?
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
I was gonna post that advert with my post. I love that everyone credits Glock with “inventing” the same style of trigger safety.
I’m not sure about the second reason you give regarding the demise of the owl head-the research I’ve done shows Iver Johnson lost large market share when millions of similar small revolvers began flooding the market at the turn of the century as soon as cordite, then smokeless powder, in more effective cartridges became ubiquitous across the country. Yes, Sullivan was enacted in 1911 in NY (and many other states that probably would have been happy to stay subjects rather than citizens 150 years followed suit), but struck down as unconstitutional eleven years later.
More than half the nation to this day doesn’t require handgun permits.

The good doctor probably treated many 32 and 38 revolver wounds in his time.

When gentlemen all had automobiles, then only thugs and drunken teenaged boys carried an Owl Head, or its copies.

What would happen to Glock (or it’s legions of copies) sales today, if you had to pay $500 and go to the sheriff to buy a permit?

Same as what happened to Owl Heads.:)
 

Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
6,570
89,665
Casa Grande, AZ
My Redhawk was made in 1984, and was worked by some famous Ruger smith out West, and polished with Simachrome, and has optional Ruger rear V and front brass bead sights.

In any event, a friend of mine loaned $500 on it at his pawn shop and I paid him $650 to have it as a “lookie at my Dirty Harry big 44” type piece, and it’s wonderful at that.

But when I go into Spout Spring Hollow alone I pack a pair of 44 Special Flattop with Keith loads.

I just added a Rossi 92 in 44 to the costume.:)

When I make a turn from the abandoned road onto my easement across the old road nobody knows how old, there still grows a bush planted my Mrs Greenville Nolan, who was raped by 18 Jayhawkers, and her husband murdered, the cabin burned, the stock stolen, and her two small children ran crying to a member of the 8th Missouri State Militia on patrol, on March 24, 1862.

How do you think that worked out, for those 18 raping, theiving, murdering Jawhawkers?

My friend Matt Keller recites the basic facts of the Battle of Humansville.

View attachment 369275

But it was my great great grandmother (or one of her sisters) who led the Jawhawkers to justice in Spout Spring Hollow on a dancing gray pony.

It was there, they faced Mrs Nolan.

Alva Rains said one Jayhawker almost got away, made it close to where the sawmill stands today.

It isn’t nice to wear United States uniforms for a nefarious purpose, not at all.

Just inside the gate, Alva said all 18 Jawhawkers sleep in an unmarked mass grave.


The men of the 8th Missouri, were quite civilized.

Their women were much more dangerous and unpredictable and bloodthirsty.:)
I run a Winchester 94 in 44mag👍🏻
If I didn’t swap into it I’d probably have gone with Ruger 45 Colt instead of even bothering with 44mag. The Rossi 92 45’s have the same receiver metal as their 454 Casull models and can take “Ruger Only” loads. My buddy has a Blackhawk and 92 and his loads best 44mag with a much better recoil profile.
 
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Brad H

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Dec 17, 2024
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Heres my fishing gun, an el cheapo (Taurus G3). I put a 15 dollar chinese light/laser on her, the name of the light is "Solofish" so it just made sense.

I always take one fishing. People keep feeding the gators and they keep getting closer and closer.

The gators never used to worry me, but the numbers continue to grow. There's basically no hunting season for them. We all used to know not to feed them. Now we have lots of out of towners trying to get up close to 'em.

View attachment 369115

Here's one of our gators.

View attachment 369119
For gators you want to use the FN five seven
5.7x28. Go right into their head and scramble their tiny dinosaur brains.
Also go thru a bullet proof vest.
 

dd57chevy

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 7, 2023
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2,477
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@Briar Lee, Ruger does make great revolvers but the original Redhawk with its shared trigger/mainspring would not be counted by me as one of them. Two trips to Ruger couldn’t fix light strikes with this one:
View attachment 369268
It’s been supplanted in the role of “anything that might need a killin’ be it man or beast” role by the S&W 629-4 Mountain Gun I pre-inherited from my father-pictured with, speaking of alligators, the gun I carry when I’m not carry a gun: a Diamondback DB-9. The alligator connection is that Diamondback (like KelTec) is a company that made airboats in FL.
View attachment 369269
240gr hard cast Keith SWC “Skeeter” loads (I use HP38, not Unique though) are what I too (along with my orthopedic surgeon) prefer to shoot.

The DB9 gets crap reviews, but I’ve got over 1000 124gr jhp rounds through it just fine training, and it fits in a back pocket “wallet” holster.
I always thought IJ revolvers were so cool . 😗
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
I always thought IJ revolvers were so cool . 😗

The Model 29 was simply an improved 45 frame double action Smith.

Elmer Keith just loved his.

But after the Dirty Harry movies put the Smiths on a long waiting list at over list prices, Bill Ruger designed a big Security Six intended to shoot thousands of full house 44 magnums between servicing, at a reduced price than the Smith.

Elmer loved his Redhawk, and hated the trigger pull.

Like any other consumer product ever made, it was styled to catch a customer.

Too bad Dirty Harry couldn’t buy one.:)

 
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dd57chevy

Part of the Furniture Now
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The Model 29 was simply an improved 45 frame double action Smith.

Elmer Keith just loved his.

But after the Dirty Harry movies put the Smiths on a long waiting list at over list prices, Bill Ruger designed a big Security Six intended to shoot thousands of full house 44 magnums between servicing, at a reduced price than the Smith.

Elmer loved his Redhawk, and hated the trigger pull.

Like any other consumer product ever made, it was styled to catch a customer.

Too bad Dirty Harry couldn’t buy one.:)

I'm pretty sure Eastwood wasn't shooting full magnum loads (240 gr ?) one handed . :ROFLMAO:
 
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I'm pretty sure Eastwood wasn't shooting full magnum loads (240 gr ?) one handed . :ROFLMAO:
Actually, I find my Model 29 fairly easy to handle - with a 6 inch barrel, it has a lot of mass ready to absorb the shock, plus, the 44 has a reasonable burn rate. Now my 454 - that was a hell of a mess to shoot.