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So far, both have been polarizing vehicles on many levels, & I'm looking forwards to spotting them in the wild. I'll bet the truck never turns a profit.
 
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I may be wrong, but I believe that that's an old rendering.
The reveal prototype vehicle was the wedge-shaped thing.
 
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Guys ... just like pipe tobacco, everyone has a different taste in cars. Everyone defines what is a ‘fun’ car in their own way.

My taste in cars - let’s say it is different from others. Three of my last cars - sold/sell in the range of 2000 units in an year in the entire US. The fourth one I don’t know, but I believe it will probably be under 5000 a year. The model for one out of those four was discontinued for the lack of sales. Yet, I have enjoyed / enjoy all of them to the fullest extent.
None of them are exotic - just minor variations in the widely common Japanese/British/German entry level luxury segment in sports trim.
 
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olkofri

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I too utterly despise Asian cars. Suxbarus, mAZZdas, Pissans, Pooyndai, Mitsubishit, et al. I have to say, though, much to my Germanophile chagrin, that the wrecked Toy-ota I purchased from a friend about 4 years ago has been a brick. Ugly car, but it's got 4W of sorts, and it's a guilty pleasure when you speed by over thick snow on a piece of junk from the last century and watch those fancy Infinitys being pushed by high schoolers as their elegant and embarrassed owner tries to get out of the snow bank.

Rural areas? The car has never let me down. Here's my rebuilt wreck that was written off as a total loss and bought from the junkyard by a mechanic in a place Cosmic would love to have a few bowls of his favourite blend in:

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3rdguy

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I have a chevy hd crew cab, weighs 3 tons, gets about 11mpg. Bitch to park sometimes. Barely fits in our garage. Rides rough, if I tried to light a pipe I would lose my eyebrows.

But, it is 20 years old, been paid off since forever. I drive it 2 miles to work and mainly use it to haul stuff, 3 ton of rock for a path, mulch, dump runs, shit my wife buys that wont fit in her Subaru etc. Plus I can work on it, parts are cheap, just liability insurance and my truck tag is grandfathered in at a permanent $52 a year. Once I retire I will downsize.
 

alaskanpiper

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I too utterly despise Asian cars. Suxbarus, mAZZdas, Pissans, Pooyndai, Mitsubishit, et al. I have to say, though, much to my Germanophile chagrin, that the wrecked Toy-ota I purchased from a friend about 4 years ago has been a brick. Ugly car, but it's got 4W of sorts, and it's a guilty pleasure when you speed by over thick snow on a piece of junk from the last century and watch those fancy Infinitys being pushed by high schoolers as their elegant and embarrassed owner tries to get out of the snow bank.

Rural areas? The car has never let me down. Here's my rebuilt wreck that was written off as a total loss and bought from the junkyard by a mechanic in a place Cosmic would love to have a few bowls of his favourite blend in:

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The preferred nomenclature is actually “Shitsubishi”
 

philobeddoe

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We own a Subaru Outback, best car we’ve ever owned. It goes through snow half way up the door as if it wasn’t even there. I have yet to get it stuck or get squirrelly on icy roads. It will flat out perform any other vehicle I’ve ever driven on snowy/icy roads excepting my Land Rover, which got too expensive to keep running. Also, my “Japanese” Subaru was built two hours from my home in Lafayette, IN.. Also, also...it gets 27-30 mpg all day every day. It’s been reliable as could be as well, I’ve replaced the tires twice and done scheduled maintainence, that’s it!

P.S. I don’t care if you want to drive a Prius or a Dump Truck as your daily driver. Don‘t Tread On Me!
 

olkofri

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A Texan friend of mine swears by Suxbarus. He almost sold me on them, except that all new ones are now CVT. I ain't buying a car with such a POS tranny.
 
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warren

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Opinion only! I've got to give the Jaqpanese auto industry credit for the vast strides the American industry had to make back in the '60's. The manufacturers, union and various suppliers suddenly discovered the American didn't want poorly made, over priced "road whales". Now days, even a Corvette can make reasonable corners. A feat unthinkable back in the 50's and 60's.
 

olkofri

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the American didn't want poorly made, over priced "road whales"
Or cars with onboard toilet seats. An externally mounted spare tyre, OK; but, a toilet seat?? Well, emergencies do happen. :oops:

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BROBS

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We own a Subaru Outback, best car we’ve ever owned. It goes through snow half way up the door as if it wasn’t even there. I have yet to get it stuck or get squirrelly on icy roads. It will flat out perform any other vehicle I’ve ever driven on snowy/icy roads excepting my Land Rover, which got too expensive to keep running. Also, my “Japanese” Subaru was built two hours from my home in Lafayette, IN.. Also, also...it gets 27-30 mpg all day every day. It’s been reliable as could be as well, I’ve replaced the tires twice and done scheduled maintainence, that’s it!

P.S. I don’t care if you want to drive a Prius or a Dump Truck as your daily driver. Don‘t Tread On Me!
How much oil do they replace at your maintenance intervals?

or if it’s an auto it Probably doesn’t use any because they limit the auto trans for that exact reason.

And they might be assembled in the US but only so it’s cheaper on the Jap company.
 

canucklehead

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Toyotas are the best vehicles, with very few exceptions. I've had several of them, and they always last for a long time with minor maintenance. My first car was a '77 Corolla that was still going strong after 620000kms, would have driven it longer but a drunk guy ran a stop sign and pulled his large utility trailer over the front end of my car. Right now I have an older Toyota minivan because I have a large dog and two kids, also my son has cerebral palsy and has a walker. I can take out all the seats and carry as much as a small truck or use it for camping, and it gets better gas mileage than the GM sedan it replaced. My wife's Toyota Echo gets amazing mileage, you could fart in it and have enough gas to drive back and forth to work for a week.
 
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elessar

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These threads are a good read, quite entertaining. As for me, I like cars and trucks. I own, drive, and use both. When I haul shit my '94 Ram with the 12V Cummins is the ticket. I can pull a house down, drive through an apocalypse, and frankly it takes and then owns it's piece of road as we roll along. Big Blue is an unstoppable force it seems. I love my truck. But my black Cadillac CTS is my usual ride. Quiet, capable, and more bells and whistles than a gay pride parade (no offense intended). Kicking sound system and just a great place to eat up miles on my longish daily commute; my temple of solitude. I love my car. Drive what you like. Pass on the rest. Your mileage may vary...
 
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How much oil do they replace at your maintenance intervals?

Is that that thing you can't talk too much about? Excessive oil consumption? Yeah, you can get a buy-back from a manufacturer on that, especially if they try a rebuild or two first & it doesn't fix it, or it comes back.
 

BROBS

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Is that that thing you can't talk too much about? Excessive oil consumption? Yeah, you can get a buy-back from a manufacturer on that, especially if they try a rebuild or two first & it doesn't fix it, or it comes back.
;)
How many motors you wanna talk about? ?

But it’s not just that car.. I’ve pretty much been soured on Asian products for the most part
 
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