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Moot point. The only way you'd catch me somewhere where it snows is if someone dragged my dead body up there.
If it snows here, there's no point in driving because we turn it into one big holiday.
so basically you drive an uncovered station wagon?

I think you should get a dope el camino.

what if it starts snowing every day? state pays wages?
 

alaskanpiper

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people have hard ons for Jap trucks the same way people have hard ons for Dunhill pipes.

I have nothing but disdain for Asian products of any kind.

I don't even think you could drive a pickup in Japan.

Even sushi? Mongolian Beef for God's sake? Oh yeah, you're vegan. In that case, you MUST have a soft spot for Indian food, no? IMO the best vegan cuisine in the world!
 
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what if it starts snowing every day? state pays wages?
I don’t even know what you mean. If no one is open, then we all just kick back. No wages to pay. This is Alabama. No government services here.

This may blow people’s minds, but most of us don't even own coats. Why would we when it is usually 60-80f all winter? It snows maybe once every five years (if that) for a day or two. If more than that, it is noted historically as very unusual.

Most years, I don’t even wear socks or hunt for where I might find a coat hidden under a box somewhere in my house.
I am where the climate suits my coat. I have no interest in ever being cold... ever.
 

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Even sushi? Mongolian Beef for God's sake? Oh yeah, you're vegan. In that case, you MUST have a soft spot for Indian food, no? IMO the best vegan cuisine in the world!
I do... I L-O-V-E Indian Food.

I pretty much don't like most asian stuff.. besides their foods lol.
I'll smash some Szechuan String Bean.

only a Japanese person will eat uncooked food and call it "SUSHI". or "SASHIMI".
it's called an ingredient.

don't get me started on the fact Coronavirus was started by those fuckers eating bats and other diseased wild animals without removing their entrails..
 
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I don’t even know what you mean. If no one is open, then we all just kick back. No wages to pay. This is Alabama. No government services here.

This may blow people’s minds, but most of us don't even own coats. Why would we when it is usually 60-80f all winter? It snows maybe once every five years (if that) for a day or two. If more than that, it is noted historically as very unusual.

Most years, I don’t even wear socks or hunt for where I might find a coat hidden under a box somewhere in my house.
I am where the climate suits my coat. I have no interest in ever being cold... ever.
I mean when weather patterns shift and the warm belt moves north.
 

mso489

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I really liked the trucks I drove on an internship and in the Navy, but I wouldn't be a happy truck owner at the gas pump unless I really needed the vehicle. As it is, my little four-banger hatch back may go for ten or twelve years and provide all the cargo space I need. But when we rode with extended family in one guy's new Ford crew cab, I was in heaven. Comfortable! But then again, the family has three kids and a horse farm, plus dogs, chickens, cats, and many many horses, owned and boarding. It sounds to me like safety requirements for cars and the sheer volume of production and sales may be key factors, but I'll read the posts over again to see what I missed. I can see people buying SUVs instead of cars, but pickups seem like a stretch unless you have use for one, but then again guys mostly love trucks. Most suburbanites don't need that truck bed, or they don't use it, maybe four times a year. Ref. brad's truck's electronics, that's true of all vehicles now. I had to buy a new battery for my hatchback and it delayed passing the state inspection for weeks while I went back for multiple unsuccessful inspections and a waiver while we all waited for the computer to catch up with the new battery. Scream.
 

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I really liked the trucks I drove on an internship and in the Navy, but I wouldn't be a happy truck owner at the gas pump unless I really needed the vehicle. As it is, my little four-banger hatch back may go for ten or twelve years and provide all the cargo space I need. But when we rode with extended family in one guy's new Ford crew cab, I was in heaven. Comfortable! But then again, the family has three kids and a horse farm, plus dogs, chickens, cats, and many many horses, owned and boarding. It sounds to me like safety requirements for cars and the sheer volume of production and sales may be key factors, but I'll read the posts over again to see what I missed. I can see people buying SUVs instead of cars, but pickups seem like a stretch unless you have use for one, but then again guys mostly love trucks. Most suburbanites don't need that truck bed, or they don't use it, maybe four times a year. Ref. brad's truck's electronics, that's true of all vehicles now. I had to buy a new battery for my hatchback and it delayed passing the state inspection for weeks while I went back for multiple unsuccessful inspections and a waiver while we all waited for the computer to catch up with the new battery. Scream.
see the link to the article I posted above.
most who own a pickup don't need one, and never use it as such.

you usually see the shortest, minuscule little fellows hopping out of the biggest trucks. ;)
 

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I do... I L-O-V-E Indian Food.

I pretty much don't like most asian stuff.. besides their foods lol.
I'll smash some Szechuan String Bean.

only a Japanese person will eat uncooked food and call it "SUSHI". or "SASHIMI".
it's called an ingredient.

don't get me started on the fact Coronavirus was started by those fuckers eating bats and other diseased wild animals without removing their entrails..

Ditto. To the Indian food anyway, there are other Asian products out there I enjoy. To keep on the car theme, Subaru does quite well in Alaska. Although I wish they had more EV or at least PHEV options. Soon to come hopefully.

On Sushi we will have to disagree. It is not only delicious, but quite common in Alaska, and Natives here have been eating raw fish for thousands of years. Nothing like a delicious piece of fresh bright Red Sockeye Meat with rice and a little soy. Or better yet, in a fine poke.

Mmmmm. Delicous, delicous bat guts. Worth it. :ROFLMAO: ?⚰

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This isn't a car and truck site, so I will cease and desist, for a while, after this, but I have this nagging curiosity. Ford, Chevy, GMC, and Dodge all claim significant profits from selling more pickups instead of cars (sedans and coupes and that sort of thing). And SUV's are often built on truck platforms. I can't figure out what the major savings would be between a sedan and a pickup. Many pickups now have a full front and back seat and interior treatment. Why does the truck bed in the back represent a significant savings in production? It seems the whole package would usually be heavier duty, more metal and bigger engines. How does this result in less production expense and bigger profits? I'm usually somewhat good at figuring out this sort of thing, but I am stymied.
high demand would be my guess. Though it's amazing how many trucks I've seen around here that demonstrate poor budget skills. Oh that's a nice truck you got there, you know you really should have at least some semblance of treads on those tires. But seriously it's weird there are a ton of trucks here that have never seen work, labor, or dirt ever. It's part of that weird let's pretend to be rednecks thing (nothing wrong with rednecks, just weird pretending to be someone your not especially at epidemic levels like here).
 
but I wouldn't be a happy truck owner at the gas pump
My truck doesn't use as much gas as a SUV. It is lighter than my wife's car, and it costs me way less in upkeep.
Most suburbanites don't need that truck bed, or they don't use it, maybe four times a year.
You know, I hear that a lot, but when I am asked all the time by friends and family to come move a washer, or deliver a couch, or help move this or that, I am asking myself all the time why these folks just don't get a truck, ha ha. I use mine all the time for myself. The Stepside at the farm for really dirty work and trailers, and my Nissan for my bikes, camping, and the constant flow of stuff I have to move as an average homeowner.

I think that suggesting that someone never uses their truck is as far fetched as looking at someone smoke a pipe with a military stem and bawk at how they probably never break the pipe down. How do you know we never use our trucks? Is it just a flippant thing you think to yourself to justify all the money you throw away on buying a car? I mean at least with a truck it maintains its value. A car is like throwing your money away.
 
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My truck doesn't use as much gas as a SUV. It is lighter than my wife's car, and it costs me way less in upkeep.

You know, I hear that a lot, but when I am asked all the time by friends and family to come move a washer, or deliver a couch, or help move this or that, I am asking myself all the time why these folks just don't get a truck, ha ha. I use mine all the time for myself. The Stepside at the farm for really dirty work and trailers, and my Nissan for my bikes, camping, and the constant flow of stuff I have to move as an average homeowner.

I think that suggesting that someone never uses their truck is as far fetched as looking at someone smoke a pipe with a military stem and bawk at how they probably never break the pipe down. How do you know we never use our trucks? Is it just a flippant thing you think to yourself to justify all the money you throw away on buying a car? I mean at least with a truck it maintains its value. A car is like throwing your money away.
totally depends on the car so that's a big generalization..
and a truck depreciates nearly as much as a car... go buy a GMC loaded full sized pickup and see how much you can get back out of it after you drive it off the lot.

I am not suggesting you don't use yours.. and I'm sure you do. Yours may be a small s-10 sized 2wd grandpa truck?

Maybe you don't have this as much down there as here... but here you see all sorts of business guys, "bros", and hillrods driving a pickup truck just as a car. They don't haul anything, they don't pull anything. If anything it's more of a hindrance because they have less interior room. These are the "truck guys" I'm talking about.
 
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Ditto. To the Indian food anyway, there are other Asian products out there I enjoy. To keep on the car theme, Subaru does quite well in Alaska. Although I wish they had more EV or at least PHEV options. Soon to come hopefully.

On Sushi we will have to disagree. It is not only delicious, but quite common in Alaska, and Natives here have been eating raw fish for thousands of years. Nothing like a delicious piece of fresh bright Red Sockeye Meat with rice and a little soy. Or better yet, in a fine poke.

Mmmmm. Delicous, delicous bat guts. Worth it. :ROFLMAO: ?⚰

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I'm not really supposed to go into details but Subaru bought back my brand new factory ordered Impreza Sport.
That's how good it was as a vehicle!
 

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totally depends on the car so that's a big generalization..
and a truck depreciates nearly as much as a car... go buy a GMC loaded full sized pickup and see how much you can get back out of it after you drive it off the lot.

I am not suggesting you don't use yours.. and I'm sure you do. Yours may be a small s-10 sized 2wd grandpa truck?

Maybe you don't have this as much down there as here... but here you see all sorts of business guys, "bros", and hillrods driving a pickup truck just as a car. They don't haul anything, they don't pull anything. If anything it's more of a hindrance because they have less interior room. These are the "truck guys" I'm talking about.
and they usually hop out of their insanely huge lifted Cummins diesel dually with a smokestack out the bed, and it's a wee little fellow with a flat brimmed hat and long beard.
 

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I have had trucks in the past. Ford F150, Chevy S10 (two of them) and a Chevy Colorado. I sold my last truck and bought a van. I can still haul whatever I want in it and everything stays dry. I don't want to mess with a truck cap or cover.

I like trucks, but for me personally a van fits my lifestyle.
 

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I have had trucks in the past. Ford F150, Chevy S10 (two of them) and a Chevy Colorado. I sold my last truck and bought a van. I can still haul whatever I want in it and everything stays dry. I don't want to mess with a truck cap or cover.

I like trucks, but for me personally a van fits my lifestyle.
or a crossover or wagon. People exclude these from their "lists" but are actually very usable vehicles.
 
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First, how do you guys all know these trucks are never used as trucks? You guys follow these people all day every day? Just because you see a truck on the road without something in it doesn't mean that guy doesn't go camping or haul canoes or bikes on the weekend. If someone saw me Monday through Friday, you might think I never use mine as anything other either.

Second, if someone wanted to drive a truck as a commuter, so what. They get reasonable gas millage, compared to SUVs... and so what? If I wanted to drive a hearse, that would be my prerogative, my wallet, and my business. Trucks drive great. It's not a Cadillac, but it's fun as hell.
 

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First, how do you guys all know these trucks are never used as trucks? You guys follow these people all day every day? Just because you see a truck on the road without something in it doesn't mean that guy doesn't go camping or haul canoes or bikes on the weekend. If someone saw me Monday through Friday, you might think I never use mine as anything other either.

Second, if someone wanted to drive a truck as a commuter, so what. They get reasonable gas millage, compared to SUVs... and so what? If I wanted to drive a hearse, that would be my prerogative, my wallet, and my business. Trucks drive great. It's not a Cadillac, but it's fun as hell.
see the link I posted above. It's from actual surveys of truck owners.

I don't think you realize how many city folk have tiny penis syndrome and have to drive a big vehicle for no reason.
 
...and again, so what? If someone wants to drive a Hummer, it's their prerogative... without having to be in the Army. Or, if they want to drive a Volvo without having any kids... or, if someone wants to drive an old mail truck.

The question was why they cost less to make? I offered that they probably don't cost less to make. They have a higher resell, holding their value more than cars, and the insurance is less. My gas mileage is less than an SUV. It weighs less than most cars, and they are fun to drive. Also, my tires cost less than the low profiles most new cars use, and all of the parts are cheaper because they have changed so little over the years, also making the vehicle last longer. I think this is why we will keep seeing them on the market long after these ugly ass car designs fail in sales.

There you go. I don't have to use it as a truck to know that a truck is just the better decision. You may drive what you want.
 
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