When Will The Government Take Your Pipe?

[shermnatman]

And so it begins... Please Google for further details - Hawaii is now moving towards becoming the first "smoke-free" state. While the current laws, bills, and proposals tend to use the word: 'cigarette' (as opposed to Tobacco), understand that in many cases, they are using typical shovel & umbrella tactics, and have lumped vape into the mix as well (which is neither tobacco nor smoke). A 'Cigarette Ban' - once instituted - can quickly become an umbrella Sale of ANY Tobacco Ban (as in Pipe Tobacco)with some quick sleight-of-hand and usually met with little resistance. Just as bans on 'smoking' in some public places apply to us Pipers as well as our cigar and cigarette smoking-brethren (even vape steam?!?), there are certain bans with certain qualifiers - such as "smoking" a foster home - or smoking in private homes, and even smoking in your own car. Of course, the "protection of children" is ALWAYS the catch-all auto-rationale (i.e.: excuse) in these cases. BOTTOM LINE: Once Hawaii goes Smoke-Free - or completely bans Tobacco altogether, it sets a precedence for any/all of 48 contiguous states - perhaps the one you live in - to grab this political football and run with it. If that happens, much like they did to Mr Potato Head back in the late 80s - In 1987, Mr. Potato Head became "Spokespud" for the annual Great American Smokeout and surrendered his pipe to Surgeon General C. Everett Koop in Washington, D.C - the government may eventually come for YOUR PIPE next - but it begins with "Cigarettes in Hawaii".

 

[snagstangl]

Right after they take your guns.... in before the close

 

[ashdigger]

Hawaii is loaded with pot smokers. They aren't taking your pipes, but I lost all my pipes and guns in the great boating accident fiasco of 2019.
IBTL

 

[rdavid]

I own several large caliber firearms and over 10K rounds of ammo... Come and get my pipes/tobacco? Not in this lifetime.
IBTL

 

[haparnold]

IBTL. Obviously nobody wants our tobacco taken away, but I think we die by a thousand cuts. Big tobacco is too strong (esp. in Southern states like Tennessee and Kentucky) for an outright ban to pass at the state level down here.

 

[raevans]

They will try, but they stand to lose big dollars in sin taxes, (unless the completely legalize weed then who knows). IBTL

 

[davet]

They will try, but they stand to lose big dollars in sin taxes

Just look north to Canadastan, they just don't care :crazy:

 

[tbradsim1]

In the words of Charllton Heston, ******************************* dead hands, lock it Bro!

 

[verporchting]

IBTL

 

[jvnshr]

Legend says if all posters include "IBTL" in their posts while commenting, the thread won't be closed. So IBTL.

 

[ashdigger]

I'll see Big Foot before this thread reaches 100 posts.

 

[mau1]

I wanna see bigfoot!

 

[dmcmtk]

I want to see Big Foot smoking a pipe (where's Sas...)! :D

 

[trouttimes]

Never underestimate the power of gov. to know what's best for us. A thousand cuts is so true and history has shown it to be true. No they can't stop smoking but they can make it hard as can be to get tabacco. Without tabacco, we have a real hard time smoking. Look at firearms and alcohol. You really can't buy them online. You have to go to a gov. regulated outlet and prove yourself worthy of purchasing the product, then how and where you use it is also regulated. But think of the children! I see tabacco being sold only thru gov. regulated outlets to people who are deemed worthy. Maybe not soon but in time. After all, many places you can't buy big gulp drinks, saturated fats, or super glazed chocolate donuts. Don't think it can't or won't happen.

 

[tavol]

 

[onestrangeone]

IBTL,,,,

Actually I just wanna see Bigfoot!

As for the op question, This is the goal of the anti- smoking crowd. Is it possible? Sure. Will it happen in my lifetime? I doubt it.

 

[sablebrush52]

IBTL
I always find these psycho threads interesting. The usual suspects always show up to thump their chests and roar their defiance.
The worst tactic to take is a ban. Look at what a great success Prohibition was. The War on Tobacco is being won, no question about that, without a ban, through a long campaign of making smoking socially repellent and eventually economically too costly to the smoker. So while I'm never surprised that some naif proposes an outright ban, I'd be very surprised to see one enacted since death by a thousand cuts is so much more effective and is working.
It's not that Government can't do very stupid things, because, like Soylent Green, government is made up of people, and people do very stupid things. But I'd still be surprised to see an outright ban because outright bans don't work.

 

[jvnshr]

So far, we are doing good guys.

 

[bradical]

So far, we are doing good guys.

Agreed! What's going on here... IBTL, or...??

 

[bluegrassbrian]

*yawn*