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georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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But shouldn’t a real conversation include naysayers? Otherwise it’s just a bunch of Pat on the backs.

I don’t necessarily have an issue with the test itself. But in my case, there was a lot of social construct, “team building”, and all of the other garbage that goes along with that type of test in a public or corporate setting. The results are whatever you want to do with them on a personal level. For me, professionally, the whole experience was awful. Internally, I found the results of no use. It was like looking out the window when it’s raining, I can see it raining and the weatherman tells me “rain today”. Yeah, no kidding, what an observation I didn’t totally see out my window.

The experience of a test like this is as much important as the categorization. Asking for just the 4 letter result without discussion on the topic is almost counter intuitive to the question.

I've seen behind the curtain at several major IT/comm companies, and in every case personality workshop stuff was seen by the Deciders as a way for the rank and file to "feel cared for" by the company. A way to create good will between staff and upper(ish) management.

The middle managers liked having it as leverage when leaning on teams about deadlines and such. "I know you can do it. You understand how to make things happen better now than ever before, right? So get on it. We don't want [insert big boss's name] thinking he wasted $120K bringing that M-B crew through here last summer."

Did it actually produce anything quantifiable / measurable? Nope.
 

LotusEater

Lifer
Apr 16, 2021
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Kansas City Missouri
Now that's funny, rat thar. rotf
Funnier still given one of the biggest knocks on the Myers Briggs is that people who really believe in it suffer from confirmation bias. You take a test about yourself and what do know the results show you are almost exactly the way you think you are? Who cares if no one else agrees or if that result has no utility. Horoscopes work on a similar premis.
 
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We don't want [insert big boss's name] thinking he wasted $120K bringing that M-B crew through here last summer."

Did it actually produce anything quantifiable / measurable? Nope.
It is always, absolutely, a waste of the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on the consulting companies to do all of these things.

The last few years I have run the gamut of all the popular “training” courses going on these days. It produced a good, quantifiable pay day for the consultants for sure!
 

pantsBoots

Lifer
Jul 21, 2020
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Definitely a waste of company resources, considering these tests are online for free and as evidenced above, people are still quick to relegate applied psychology to the dust bin because it's not as reproducible as a mathematical proof. A lot of people also appear to be incapable or scared of structured introspection, so resources such as this are not universally beneficial. I have voted against using this method in professional environments before, but the HR people need things to do, so I've always been outvoted.

I do find validity in this test, as I do some of the astrological sciences, because pattern recognition is a thing (at least, it is one of the skills I tap most in my personal and professional life). I have taken this test at 3 different times in my life, including as a result of this thread, and received the same result every time - ENTJ. Every time, I have shared results with fellow students, coworkers, and, this time, my wife. Every time, people have agreed with the results as I am, as my wife so eloquently put it, the "most compassionate dictator" she has ever met. I'll add those notes to her file for the quarterly review.

That said, all archetypes (or the positions of planets) can do is incline, not compel. We still makes our choices and reaps our consequences. No inborn trait or heavenly body can circumvent that.
 
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BingBong

Lifer
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Ah but, your subject matter does interest me. Interests me enough to post a reply. I wasn't trying to "rain on your parade" simply post a bit of opposing perspective. Didn't intend to cause you to get your panties all bunched up. This is after all a forum open to many opinions and observations. It's what we do discuss different subjects, and contribute, within the rules, opinions. If you don't want to read replies which do not appeal to you, you should stay away from controversial subjects. Stick with subjects we all agree on like, P-lips, Escudo, and such.rotf
Whoah! When did everyone agree on Plips and Escudo?

Natal astrology is jolly good when you want to find out what a woman's kinks are, in my experience. Oh yes.
 

IlanaFischer

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I took a couple of tests on personality-type.com out of curiosity and found it really interesting to see the results line up with how I see myself. The tests gave me some great insights that I hadn’t considered before.

I was taking one of those free tests and being surprised by how accurate it felt. It really helped me understand my preferences better and gave me some pointers for personal growth. If you’re looking to get into it, trying a few tests and comparing the results can definitely be a good way to start figuring out what resonates most with you.
 

sallow

Lifer
Jun 30, 2013
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*facepalm*

What's the matter with this forum? If it doesn't interest you, why shit on somebody else's thread? When you're at a restaurant and someone orders a menu item you're not fond of, do you compulsively walk up and say, "I wouldn't eat that. It's nasty," and walk away?

What I was looking for here was a change of pace, the chance to engage people with a shared interest not usually on this forum. What I've gotten instead is an all you can eat buffet of toxicity.
After a year on this forum you should have known what you would get with this, I assume that is what you were looking for.

This whole thread is a set up to tell us

1. I went to Vegas for a smoke show
2. This forum blows.
 
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pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
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First time I saw this discussion was today and since I had nothing better to do while drinking coffee, I took one of the test.
According to the test, I am a Commander and:

60% extraverted
61% intuitive
53% Thinking
64% Judging
64% Assertive

Some of those percentages I don't agree with and I don't know why they used extraverted instead of extroverted.
As for being a "Commander", I am a retired Senior Chief Petty Officer. Of course I'm a leader.
 
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jguss

Lifer
Jul 7, 2013
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Meyers-Briggs was all the rage when I started my career at a large consulting firm about 43 years ago. The company determined a large majority of its most successful employees were INTJ (statistically a very small percentage of the population) and used that as one screening mechanism for hiring purposes. Did it work? Hard to tell.

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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
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I took a couple of tests on personality-type.com out of curiosity and found it really interesting to see the results line up with how I see myself. The tests gave me some great insights that I hadn’t considered before.

I was taking one of those free tests and being surprised by how accurate it felt. It really helped me understand my preferences better and gave me some pointers for personal growth. If you’re looking to get into it, trying a few tests and comparing the results can definitely be a good way to start figuring out what resonates most with you.
This is classic Confirmation Bias.
 
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