I am just not sure which Sutliff people would be willing to pay that kind of bank for.
What Sutliff Products to Purchase?
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if no one said or even if they did. Mixture 79 not because you'll love it. But because it's a one of a kind blend and you'll either love it or hate it. But you need to know. If you do buy it I suggest packing it super lightly as in sprinkle the tobacco in the pipe chamber (I sorta lightly rub it out above the chamber) and gently tap the bottomish part of the bowl (not the very bottom but as low on the side of bowl as you can) to level it off and do that till it's near the top. I don't put any pressure on the tobacco. That's when it smokes best in my opinion.
Ha ha, yeh... I wouldn't want to be the sucker stuck with 20lbs of Mixture 79 in my closet. Maybe you should stock up.
^^ what he said. I hit up all my brick and mortars in Austin and bought all the Frog Mortons Cellar, Holiday Spirit and Christmas Cheer I could find. As for sutliff, if you vacuum seal the aromatics you'll get some good life out of them keeping their flavors. Seasonal stuff like pumpkin spice is always a good pickup because it can be used as a condiment tobacco if you're an aromatic fan. Many people like the molto dulce - another one to try and stock up on, and of course their vanilla are great.
I have a few aromatics set back, and yes the topping does sink into the tobacco more over time, but I prefer to taste the tobaccos and let the topping take a back seat. I am not even sure I understand aromatic smokers that don't like to taste any tobacco in their smoke. But...
Yeah I'd smoke 20lbs of that. If the op can't figure out trial size versus cellar size that's a them problem. Also you shouldn't put it in the closet you should probably store it in a shed or some where like that away from the others. It's just a matter of it being too glorious for the rest.
Harris wasn't creepy or a perv. He had a persona that he liked to project, but it was just to shock for the fun of it.
He definitely understood business, so I'm not surprised that he predicted the kind of pricing on McClelland and Esoteria, and stockpiled them. Hopefully his family has monetized that cellar. The 28 pounds of Stonehaven alone will bring in a tidy sum.
Agree with some of the advice above. I would not speculate on bulk blends unless they are truly legendary (like McClelland's 5100 Red Cake). Generally only tins can be resold reliably. A lot of the Sutliff branded blends are not held in high regard on the order of Germains. And most of it is entirely unkown in, say, China. The stuff they produce for others is perhaps more loved (SPC etc).
Everyone laugh if you want to but I agree. Frosty Mint gets a bad rap like CBG did back in the day.
Frosty Mint - used as a blending tobacco, especially with Sutliff Chocolate Suprreme. And C&D Mocha - is a wonderful addition to any home blender wanting to spice things up a bit or create dessert blends.
Regardless, I picked up another half pound of Fristy Mint. Might not seem like much, but it’s enough to blend into four pounds of tobacco.
I'd say pick up a couple tins of War Horse and War Horse Green while you still can. They're technically aromatics, but their toppings are so strong that they should cellar well for many years and I can pretty much guarantee that you'll never taste anything quite like them again if they're discontinued. Whether or not you'll actually like the taste is up to question, but they're certainly a singularly unique flavor experience.
I like the Sutliff Crumble Kake VaPer a lot, I have three tins of it in my cellar. Great VaPer with red VA and some black cavendish, similar to Rattray Marlin Flake. I decided to cellar them partly because I wanted to see how they age long term and partly because they're one of the few non aro blends my local B&M sells, my state doesn't allow online sales so I'm very limited in options for cellaring.
Sweet Virginia is a solid intro to straight VAs and is ready rubbed. I plan to start cellaring soon
Sweet Virginia is a solid intro to straight VAs and is ready rubbed. I plan to start cellaring soon
As a guy only a couple years into this obsessive addiction hobby, I’ve come now to where I don’t seek to try blends that are (or show signs of) being unavailable in the future.
My recommendation would be to see what shakes out of the merger when the dust settles as far as Sutliff and MacBaren branded/produced products go.
I’ve gotten a good amount of the couple blends from them that I like the unique characteristics of, but honestly other than those two there aren’t many that I’d miss terribly when gone.
My recommendation would be to see what shakes out of the merger when the dust settles as far as Sutliff and MacBaren branded/produced products go.
I’ve gotten a good amount of the couple blends from them that I like the unique characteristics of, but honestly other than those two there aren’t many that I’d miss terribly when gone.
I'm most curious about the fate of the SPC blends. Seems they have positioned themselves as a "luxury" tobacco with prices (and I assume, margins) to match. Would this be worth keeping alive for STG? How much will the taste/quality change? Or could SPC pivot to C&D? Brands like Plum Pudding and Mississippi River seem too valuable to let die at this point. I'm not taking any chances I've been adding to my stash of MR...
Some solid advice on here for the OP. If you haven't had a lot Sutliff and Mac Baren blends I wouldn't go spending a ton of money on any until we find out what's staying. You will just end up buying a bunch of stuff you may not even like when you're better off spending your money on blends you do like.
Yeah I totally get that mindset. For me I'd be more than happy to try something before it goes. I started off with cigars so I'm used to buying singles, often limited edition, so getting a tin of discontinued pipe tobacco is quite a deal for me because that's around 15 bowls of it compared to only trying it once.
Most people think Plum Pudding is definitely safe, granted the quality could easily drop so cellaring now is a win win. Mississippi River is probably safe too but the rest of the SPC catalog is anybody's guess. The newer VaPer and straight VA SPC lines are probably most likely to be axed since they're the newest things and a departure from the brand's initial emphasis on complex Balkans. A lot of people are worried about the drop in quality in whatever continues, lucky for me I'm new enough that I won't know the difference. A lot of people hate the modern STG version of SRW but I love it and that was my first non aro, it's what turned me onto pipe smoking.
I didn't get into pipes until after the Dunhill blends rebranded as Peterson but I've seen tons of old forum posts and YTPC videos with people saying they were stocking up on a bunch of Dunhill stuff. Then only a few were actually discontinued, Apertif and Ye Olde Signe are the only ones I know of that were. However I do think stocking up on Dunhill tins could still be a solid investment for the consignment market because a Dunhill logo on the tin is a guarantee it has at least 7 years of age. I have no idea if they had a date on their tin or if the current Peterson ones do but so many don't.