What Sutliff Products to Purchase?

[NookersTheCat]

I was actually going through my stash yesterday while putting away the couple dozen tins of Bengal, Magnum Opus, etc. (Yeah I'm being that guy rn lol)
I was actually making a bit of a list of which blends/brands are already made by stg/denmark, kopp, etc. Was thinking of posting a thread with it to give folks a bit more clarity on which ones are safer and which ones aren't but didn't wanna get a bunch of troll responses lol. Would anyone be interested in that?

 

[Hutch Piper]

I was actually going through my stash yesterday while putting away the couple dozen tins of Bengal, Magnum Opus, etc. (Yeah I'm being that guy rn lol)
I was actually making a bit of a list of which blends/brands are already made by stg/denmark, kopp, etc. Was thinking of posting a thread with it to give folks a bit more clarity on which ones are safer and which ones aren't but didn't wanna get a bunch of troll responses lol. Would anyone be interested in that?

Somebody just put something very comprehensive together on another pipe message board. I’ll try to find it.

 

[Pooh-Bah]

I'd say pick up a couple tins of War Horse and War Horse Green while you still can. They're technically aromatics, but their toppings are so strong that they should cellar well for many years and I can pretty much guarantee that you'll never taste anything quite like them again if they're discontinued. Whether or not you'll actually like the taste is up to question, but they're certainly a singularly unique flavor experience.

Disregard the advice of the coyote, I'm hoarding War Horse to protect you! Why, if you go plumbing through old threads, you'll see all sorts of horrible things being said about War Horse! ...by its developers, as a joke and/or brilliant advertising campaign.

I'd recommend picking up some of the Match blends - Most of those are recreations of dead products anyway. Of the few I tried, my favorite was Field & Stream.

 

[NookersTheCat]

Somebody just put something very comprehensive together on another pipe message board. I’ll try to find it.

Please do, maybe I can even add to it and create a running tally. I was only going off the "Made by" labels on the back of my tins but I know some of them surprised even me. Not only how many are already made in Denmark, but which ones were made by completely different companies (I had no idea how big Kopp actually is making Rattray's, etc.)
It actually gave me some hope. Don't get me wrong, this is still gonna be terrible. Especially if you watch the new StuffandThings YT video where he supposedly got info from a high-up MacBaren source... but it did give me some hope that not all will be lost. Apparently all current Sutliff/MacBaren hard flakes like 507 are already from Svendborg under license.

I was gonna make it listing which brands/blends are currently made by whom and where, then add in my own editorial based on the news I've been aggregating. Basically from what I can see the hardest hit are gonna be the Sutliff bulk/match blends (Especially the myriad aromatic ones) and private stock, seasonal/limited editions, etc. The PC.com/H&H and SPC blends will almost certainly have a significant production gap and probably be trimmed down, but I'm sure the most popular will be later resurrected in Denmark... how close will they be to the originals? We'll see.
Also I'm sure quite some disruption will come to local B&M blenders/online equivalents like country squire, etc. though I've heard anecdotal reports that at least Boswell and LJ Peretti know about it and are not too concerned.

Again, a sad/tragic development to be sure but it seems there will be at least some hope. I know personally I was really lamenting that this was gonna be the death of pretty much all American style aromatics, but I learned that Lane aromatics (which I consider to be some of the best quality, including my beloved TK-6) have been fully Danish for the last 4 years or so. Now I don't know what they were like before the move so maybe my ignorance here is bliss... but at least STG does know how to make a decent aro. Again, I'm still terrified/hording lol... but at least it's (hopefully) looking like not quite all is lost for those of us who aren't willing to smoke straight bright VA and dark-fired flakes lmao

 

[Hutch Piper]

Please do, maybe I can even add to it and create a running tally. I was only going off the "Made by" labels on the back of my tins but I know some of them surprised even me. Not only how many are already made in Denmark, but which ones were made by completely different companies (I had no idea how big Kopp actually is making Rattray's, etc.)
It actually gave me some hope. Don't get me wrong, this is still gonna be terrible. Especially if you watch the new StuffandThings YT video where he supposedly got info from a high-up MacBaren source... but it did give me some hope that not all will be lost. Apparently all current Sutliff/MacBaren hard flakes like 507 are already from Svendborg under license.

I was gonna make it listing which brands/blends are currently made by whom and where, then add in my own editorial based on the news I've been aggregating. Basically from what I can see the hardest hit are gonna be the Sutliff bulk/match blends (Especially the myriad aromatic ones) and private stock, seasonal/limited editions, etc. The PC.com/H&H and SPC blends will almost certainly have a significant production gap and probably be trimmed down, but I'm sure the most popular will be later resurrected in Denmark... how close will they be to the originals? We'll see.
Also I'm sure quite some disruption will come to local B&M blenders/online equivalents like country squire, etc. though I've heard anecdotal reports that at least Boswell and LJ Peretti know about it and are not too concerned.

Again, a sad/tragic development to be sure but it seems there will be at least some hope. I know personally I was really lamenting that this was gonna be the death of pretty much all American style aromatics, but I learned that Lane aromatics (which I consider to be some of the best quality, including my beloved TK-6) have been fully Danish for the last 4 years or so. Now I don't know what they were like before the move so maybe my ignorance here is bliss... but at least STG does know how to make a decent aro. Again, I'm still terrified/hording lol... but at least it's (hopefully) looking like not quite all is lost for those of us who aren't willing to smoke straight bright VA and dark-fired flakes lmao

Not sure if you can read this but here it is.

https://imgur.com/a/pipe

 

[Hutch Piper]

Not sure if you can read this but here it is.

https://imgur.com/a/pipe

Pipe Tobacco Producer/Brand List (who makes what)

Thanks to @OakBayou for compiling this. I'm going to lock it because the other "who makes what" thread is a bit of a disaster. Errors or omissions may be present, nothing is super stable. We'll try to keep it updated.

pipesmokersdens.com

 

[NookersTheCat]

Pipe Tobacco Producer/Brand List (who makes what)

Thanks to @OakBayou for compiling this. I'm going to lock it because the other "who makes what" thread is a bit of a disaster. Errors or omissions may be present, nothing is super stable. We'll try to keep it updated.

pipesmokersdens.com

Wow, truly more exhaustive than I would have been able to manage. Perhaps I will just cite this giving credit to you/the author and just stick to the editorial..

 

[Hutch Piper]

Wow, truly more exhaustive than I would have been able to manage. Perhaps I will just cite this giving credit to you/the author and just stick to the editorial..

Yea. Mind boggling really.