If you like those Cains, check out Holt's weekly specials. They often have boxes for quite cheap. This week they have the Daytonas for $72/24 and the Cain F for $84/24. I avoided the cigars for a long time, because I didn't think I'd be interested in a cigar made up of so much ligero leaf, and the packaging and bands are kind of blah. In fact, I should have trusted Oliva, as the cigars are delicious and well-balanced, despite the ligero content.