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Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
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You'd be surprised. Schools here no longer have textbooks, doctor appointments are all virtual if not life threatening, and I couldn't tell you how many times I've been flown to Japan for seminars, training and updates on my company's procedures.
well yeah that's everywhere..
and that's your employer not the state as a whole.. they chose your state because it's so cheap and unregulated.
 

irishearl

Lifer
Aug 2, 2016
2,255
4,037
Kansas
Well, almost got busted with pot by a cop when smoking outside some 46 years ago, which was the last time I used it. Otherwise, no. Did hack me off to learn a few years back that 1 of our local grocery stores discontinued selling pipe cleaners because they erroneously thought most of them were being sold to clean pot pipes. Guess they never heard of tobacco pipes being smoked.:mad:
 

canucklehead

Lifer
Aug 1, 2018
2,862
15,355
Alberta
Since January 1st, 2020, my city has been officially smoke free. It is against the law to smoke anything in public here, cigars, cigarettes, vapes, pipes, tobacco, cannabis, all is banned. The only places you are permitted to smoke is your private residence or your personal vehicle, as long as you are not parked within 20 feet of any window, door, or vent, and no minors in your car.
 

marlinspike

Can't Leave
Feb 19, 2020
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The PNW
In the present climate, it occurs to me that there has always been something a little off, or worse, with law enforcement, acknowledging that it is one of the hardest jobs in the world, and even harder to do well. Even in my twenties, in the Navy, I'd go walking in Long Beach, along the beach, just to air out my brains from the claustrophobia of shipboard life. Cops stopped me on the beach, because I wasn't in a social group but just walking along. I patiently explained my situation, and I think I showed them my military i.d., and they didn't detain me long, but it felt like trouble brewing. They could have invented anything and matched me with any crime over past years. As a teen, I was stopped several times for my interest in the design of automobiles; any seventeen year old qualifies as a car thief. Anyone who is independent, introspective, and a little imaginative should maybe memorize the phone number of a good lawyer.
As the son, grandson, or nephew of men who served in the police, sheriff's department, or fire departments in the small-town South, I would say your point is well-taken. There were some really good guys in each department then, and some folks whom I'd now call virtual sociopaths. I can't remember the times my friends and I would get stopped for virtually any pretext as teenagers, and when the officer recognized me, would wave us on, since he knew my family...and I also know that some others who weren't up to anything at all got buttonholed on any pretext, and got a black eye or worse. That bit of power and authority is mighty bad for some personalities. I'm sure some of the more flagrant abuses have subsided, since departments are under greater scrutiny than they were in my youth, but it was a pretty eye-opening experience then.
 

SoddenJack

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A few years back I got pulled over by an overzealous cop that thought I was smoking weed from my briar. Even after showing him the tin of tobacco and letting him inspect my briar he still insisted on searching my car. He didn’t find any weed, but he did find about an ounce of coke and half a sheet of acid I had hidden under the passenger seat. Luckily I just gave him the ol’ secret white guy handshake and he let me go on the way, just told me to “move along”. That was the only real issue I ever had smoking a pipe.
 

BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
11,765
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As the son, grandson, or nephew of men who served in the police, sheriff's department, or fire departments in the small-town South, I would say your point is well-taken. There were some really good guys in each department then, and some folks whom I'd now call virtual sociopaths. I can't remember the times my friends and I would get stopped for virtually any pretext as teenagers, and when the officer recognized me, would wave us on, since he knew my family...and I also know that some others who weren't up to anything at all got buttonholed on any pretext, and got a black eye or worse. That bit of power and authority is mighty bad for some personalities. I'm sure some of the more flagrant abuses have subsided, since departments are under greater scrutiny than they were in my youth, but it was a pretty eye-opening experience then.
nope still goes on .. Chicago PD is the absolute worst at it.

the problem is that as a job it attracts nerd-losers who in high school got ripped on or bullied.
They then do the same thing to those who they police as "payback" for getting swirlies.

ever notice half the last names are things like "PENISHEIMER" or Officer "COLON". etc
 

marlinspike

Can't Leave
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nope still goes on .. Chicago PD is the absolute worst at it.

the problem is that as a job it attracts nerd-losers who in high school got ripped on or bullied.
They then do the same thing to those who they police as "payback" for getting swirlies.

ever notice half the last names are things like "PENISHEIMER" or Officer "COLON". etc
I was mainly meaning the areas where I grew up, since some of those departments were under Justice Department orders for abuses during the '70s and '80s. Yeah, it's a real mess though, across the country.
 

BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
11,765
40,038
IA
I was mainly meaning the areas where I grew up, since some of those departments were under Justice Department orders for abuses during the '70s and '80s. Yeah, it's a real mess though, across the country.
right.. plenty of good guys and good being done I don't mean it that way.
but it's the only job really besides working in a factory where you need no skills at all, or even really any training.
Then they're set loose with a gun. Some of these kids I see around here have gotta be not a day over 19.
 

karam

Lifer
Feb 2, 2019
2,577
9,847
Basel, Switzerland
The police are like dogs, in that when they see someone run, hide something, or look suspicious in any way, they'll take chase to it. If you are just smoking away, while making eye contact with a policeman, they most likely wont do anything... unless they want to know more about the pipesmoking hobby.

That.
Never had an issue in Greece, perhaps some smirks. All rank and file coppers' radars are always tuned to "is anything out of order?".
 

lawdawg

Lifer
Aug 25, 2016
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Agreed with pretty much everyone here. I'm not at all anti-police by any means, but there are too many bad cops out there to just automatically trust them all.

All that I can add to the conversation is don't let the cops search your vehicle, person, house, etc. without a warrant. If they ask, tell them no, and if they proceed anyway, make it clear that you object, and the only reason worth stating is that you have a constitutional right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures (because they will ask and poke and prod if you don't consent to a search). You stand to gain nothing by cooperating. Conversely, the only reason they are asking is because they think they can build some kind of a case against you, but they don't have enough information to get a warrant. If you let them go ahead, there could be a crooked one in the bunch who lies in a report, falsifies evidence, plants evidence, etc. Basically, you stand to gain nothing, but stand to lose a lot.
 

pantsBoots

Lifer
Jul 21, 2020
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It is funny this got brought up. I was sitting on the front porch last week smoking an Al Pascia Curvy, which kind of looks like a weed pipe anyway, because the HVAC guys were busy in the backyard near my normal smoking spot. As I sat there puffing away to take a short break from work, some lady - Karen or Becky or whomever - was driving by, saw me and slowed down - jaw agape. I guess she thought I was brazenly roking the ganja in broad daylight.

I like to think she went to bed a little disturbed that night.
 

marlinspike

Can't Leave
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It is funny this got brought up. I was sitting on the front porch last week smoking an Al Pascia Curvy, which kind of looks like a weed pipe anyway, because the HVAC guys were busy in the backyard near my normal smoking spot. As I sat there puffing away to take a short break from work, some lady - Karen or Becky or whomever - was driving by, saw me and slowed down - jaw agape. I guess she thought I was brazenly roking the ganja in broad daylight.

I like to think she went to bed a little disturbed that night.
All these Karens and Beckys have a lot to answer for these days! Muckrakers, the lot of 'em! :ROFLMAO:
 
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