Tomorrow is My Last Day With Cigarettes
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Woke up around 8 am this morning so the first 5 and half hours is so far so good. Had a pipe. It was really good considering I would book end breakfast with nails. Thus far I've thought about them a little bit here and there but like I said so far so good.
Again, thank you all for your support. I know that no matter what anyone else has to say about it, I can count on you folks for legitimate insights and good advice (and if not good, then at least ALOT of advice, haha). Speaking of which, what some of these High N blends of which you speak? Or at least some favorites.
lordnoble- Thanks for the fill-in on Rochester. I think we're gonna stay in the Inner Loop so The Old Toad so might be a spot we will hit up and the Museum of Play sounds like a kick ass place to spend an afternoon. We are without children but I do love arcade games!
flyfishn-Thank you for the Buffalo intel. We'll probably be going to the Pearl Street Brewery for either our lunch or dinner so thank you for that tip. I'm not sure what time we'll be stopping by Smoker's Haven but we'll have my girlfriend's mom in tow while she's really cool, she's an RN and a bit awkward so, while I would love to sit down and have a pipe with you, I'm afraid I'm going to politely and reluctantly decline. If you need to stop by the shop anyway, I can let you know when we're coming through and we can at least shake hands and put faces and names to the avatars?
bentmike- Thanks for a little background on the Fort. I'm pumped to see it. I love stuff like that.
Again, thank you to everyone that posted their support and encouragement.
And good luck to Weezell tomorrow. You can do this. I can this. We can do this.
Again, thank you all for your support. I know that no matter what anyone else has to say about it, I can count on you folks for legitimate insights and good advice (and if not good, then at least ALOT of advice, haha). Speaking of which, what some of these High N blends of which you speak? Or at least some favorites.
lordnoble- Thanks for the fill-in on Rochester. I think we're gonna stay in the Inner Loop so The Old Toad so might be a spot we will hit up and the Museum of Play sounds like a kick ass place to spend an afternoon. We are without children but I do love arcade games!
flyfishn-Thank you for the Buffalo intel. We'll probably be going to the Pearl Street Brewery for either our lunch or dinner so thank you for that tip. I'm not sure what time we'll be stopping by Smoker's Haven but we'll have my girlfriend's mom in tow while she's really cool, she's an RN and a bit awkward so, while I would love to sit down and have a pipe with you, I'm afraid I'm going to politely and reluctantly decline. If you need to stop by the shop anyway, I can let you know when we're coming through and we can at least shake hands and put faces and names to the avatars?
bentmike- Thanks for a little background on the Fort. I'm pumped to see it. I love stuff like that.
Again, thank you to everyone that posted their support and encouragement.
And good luck to Weezell tomorrow. You can do this. I can this. We can do this.
You both have inspired me to quit smoking so as of this morning(Sunday). Been smoking the nails for 30+ years I have officially quit smoking!
I can rely on my pipe and my cigars.
I can rely on my pipe and my cigars.
this type of reverse thinking helped me
keep emphasizing to yourself - that every bit of craving and pain is GOOD !
for one reason and one reason only
it lets you know that you HAVE NOT SMOKED
you cannot get any gooder than that
feel the pain - immerse yourself in knowing that the pain is good and it will go away just as soon as you get busy doing something like daydreaming about running through the park or playing pro football, sail boarding etc ... as you puff on another bowl
the first five days were always the worse for me - after that i had more and more control but eventually i would always go back -
like the time i threw all my cigs away and then two weeks later when i went to get a shirt out of the closet - there was one cig in the front pocket - i never figured out why or how -but that did it -
then the other time when i went for several days - chewing the heck out of those nicotine gums - trying to wean off of them right away - i was thinking wow - i have made it 3 days in a row and only chewed two gums - one in the morning and one at night - this might work out - then about 2 am - i woke up - got on my motorcycle and drove straight to the gas station and bought another pack - that was about 14 years ago
there is one thing i ween about cigarettes
if you are tough enough - they will kill you
remember ' The Duke '
keep emphasizing to yourself - that every bit of craving and pain is GOOD !
for one reason and one reason only
it lets you know that you HAVE NOT SMOKED
you cannot get any gooder than that
feel the pain - immerse yourself in knowing that the pain is good and it will go away just as soon as you get busy doing something like daydreaming about running through the park or playing pro football, sail boarding etc ... as you puff on another bowl
the first five days were always the worse for me - after that i had more and more control but eventually i would always go back -
like the time i threw all my cigs away and then two weeks later when i went to get a shirt out of the closet - there was one cig in the front pocket - i never figured out why or how -but that did it -
then the other time when i went for several days - chewing the heck out of those nicotine gums - trying to wean off of them right away - i was thinking wow - i have made it 3 days in a row and only chewed two gums - one in the morning and one at night - this might work out - then about 2 am - i woke up - got on my motorcycle and drove straight to the gas station and bought another pack - that was about 14 years ago
there is one thing i ween about cigarettes
if you are tough enough - they will kill you
remember ' The Duke '
[ and besides that - they had the monopoly on all those peace pipes and herb uh i mean tobacco plants ]
if you really get desperate - you can move to
Bhutan The First Nonsmoking Nation
Bhutan is the only country in the world where tobacco sales are illegal.
Bhutan The First Nonsmoking Nation
Bhutan is the only country in the world where tobacco sales are illegal.
A few of the high nic baccys I know of are Five Brothers, C&D Night Train, and GLP Jacknife. I used Five Brothers to kick the cig habit back in June 2010. Just think, with all the money you'll save you can buy a new pipe every month. Good luck all.
edlogic wrote
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_wayne.html#ixzz1pVab44zM
@ John Wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ6RjP7MlXk
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_wayne.html#ixzz1pVab44zM
@ John Wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ6RjP7MlXk
Hi everyone, I'm still on the wagon. We spent all day out of the house yesterday and when we came back, the internet was down and it was too late to fight with Verizon to get back online. This morning, it's back for now.
Anyway, this begins day three. The night of day one was pretty tough. My body saying, "So you're f***ing serious about not having one? " and I was nauseous. Does the withdrawal from cigs run that deep or was it because I was watching House? I had my moments yesterday but I puffed steadily away on the pipe. Today, day three, I heard is one of the worst ones so, I'm not really looking forward to that.
I've run through all of the self-defeating thoughts already, "It's too soon," "I'm not ready," "one won't hurt," "that guy over there is smoking a cig and look how happy he is," but I haven't caved. I have also been thinking about what maineyachtie said about 'realizing that you're an ex-cigarette smoker.' I thought that would happen when I decided to quit. It doesn't. Day three and I'm still a miserable cigarette smoker who hasn't had a cigarette in three days. But that's something though.
Still firmly on the wagon but it's been a bumpy two days. I'll have to check out those tobaccos rogers mentioned.
Again, thanks for all of your support.
Anybody know any other high N tobaccos worth mentioning?
How are weezell and havanarick, the other cig kickers making out?
PS. Thanks for the idea edlogic but I suspect I'd rather not move to Bhutan for any reason.
Anyway, this begins day three. The night of day one was pretty tough. My body saying, "So you're f***ing serious about not having one? " and I was nauseous. Does the withdrawal from cigs run that deep or was it because I was watching House? I had my moments yesterday but I puffed steadily away on the pipe. Today, day three, I heard is one of the worst ones so, I'm not really looking forward to that.
I've run through all of the self-defeating thoughts already, "It's too soon," "I'm not ready," "one won't hurt," "that guy over there is smoking a cig and look how happy he is," but I haven't caved. I have also been thinking about what maineyachtie said about 'realizing that you're an ex-cigarette smoker.' I thought that would happen when I decided to quit. It doesn't. Day three and I'm still a miserable cigarette smoker who hasn't had a cigarette in three days. But that's something though.
Still firmly on the wagon but it's been a bumpy two days. I'll have to check out those tobaccos rogers mentioned.
Again, thanks for all of your support.
Anybody know any other high N tobaccos worth mentioning?
How are weezell and havanarick, the other cig kickers making out?
PS. Thanks for the idea edlogic but I suspect I'd rather not move to Bhutan for any reason.
Bowlegged Bear is a high nic english plug, GLPlease's Cumberland has a good bit of nic aswell as Haddo's Delight(I still don't know who is Haddo)and Riverboat Gambler is a good high nic that i think an ex cig smokers would like it is in my rotation and try any burley flake ya can find
I'm not an expert on nicotine, but here are a couple of interesting threads which should have lots of suggestions.
What Is Your Highest Nicotine Tobacco?
Strongest Blends
Don''t give up!
you can get all the nicotine you want from a very small pinch of tobacco -
if you heat it and not burn it
there are different ways to heat it
for example put it on glass and heat the glass
you just have to heat it enough for the nicotine to evaporate out of the tobacco - like boiling the water out but it takes more heat to get the nicotine out - about 375 degrees i think
i have used a commercial vaporizer for that and it is easy to get too much nicotine from one small pinch of tobacco - about one quarter of a cig is enough but you can use any tobacco
you get about 3 or 4 times as much nicotine from vapor as you do frum burning because most of the nicotine is destroyed by burning - you get none of the tar and very little of the other toxic gasses - but it will give you the feeling that you just smoked a whole cig and you will be satisfied as far as nicotine but you still miss the hand to mouth movement of puffing a cig - that will go away after a while and hopefully after that you will start getting tired of having to mess with the nicotine and start cutting back
before you try it it is almost like a stupid dream to think it will work but it did for me
the secret is that you have to get the temp high enough without burning and you have to breath slowly as the vapor is released into the air flowing by the tobacco - the air flowing on the tobacco will cool it so there is a small heat band between vapor and fire that you can regulate with the air flow rate
there are videos on youtube about how to make one from a light bulb
but i think there should be other ways using glass or steel
so you could put the tobacco on the end of the glass and heat the glass near but not directly under the tobacco and the glass will get hot enough under the tobacco to cause vaporization
if you don't have it enclosed then you will need to be in a room where the air is completely still so that you can use a straw or maybe place a glass cup over the heating tobacco to capture the vapor and then lift the glass enough to sip the vapor out
it's possible to vaporize the nicotine into the upside down glass cup and then tip the cup and breath the vapors
i wish i would have known about that many years ago - but i only learned about it a few years ago - i tried a couple of those cheap chinese vaporizers $ 50 on ebay and they stopped working after about a month or two - then i bought a portable one that cost $ 200 and it worked fine - for pretty cheap you can buy a vaporizer type pipe that has a little metal bowl that you put the tobacco in and it closes up and heat the metal with a butane lighter and puff through the wood pipe stem
you can heat a wire with electric current - like a paper clip connected to a 12 volt battery charger that can put 10 amps of current into the paper clip will turn it red hot
if you don't leave on the current and pulse the connection on and off - you can regulate the heating of the paper clip and try to keep it form burning and put the paper clip under a glass and heat the tobacco a little and when you see smoke then make the connection times less etc . then when you see the tobacco turn dark then you know it has been vaporized and the vapor is in the air in the glass and you can breath it and get a lot of nicotine from it
there are other videos that show how to do it a little bit differently - with a frosted light bulb - clean it out with salt
well this vid is not using tobacco - i didn't watch it before i posted and edited this warning in - but it still works the same way
if you double click on the video it will go to youtube and then you can go full screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmixODIvAtM
another one
here is the way it works - once again - not tobacco though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7vtNTX4lwQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
if you heat it and not burn it
there are different ways to heat it
for example put it on glass and heat the glass
you just have to heat it enough for the nicotine to evaporate out of the tobacco - like boiling the water out but it takes more heat to get the nicotine out - about 375 degrees i think
i have used a commercial vaporizer for that and it is easy to get too much nicotine from one small pinch of tobacco - about one quarter of a cig is enough but you can use any tobacco
you get about 3 or 4 times as much nicotine from vapor as you do frum burning because most of the nicotine is destroyed by burning - you get none of the tar and very little of the other toxic gasses - but it will give you the feeling that you just smoked a whole cig and you will be satisfied as far as nicotine but you still miss the hand to mouth movement of puffing a cig - that will go away after a while and hopefully after that you will start getting tired of having to mess with the nicotine and start cutting back
before you try it it is almost like a stupid dream to think it will work but it did for me
the secret is that you have to get the temp high enough without burning and you have to breath slowly as the vapor is released into the air flowing by the tobacco - the air flowing on the tobacco will cool it so there is a small heat band between vapor and fire that you can regulate with the air flow rate
there are videos on youtube about how to make one from a light bulb
but i think there should be other ways using glass or steel
so you could put the tobacco on the end of the glass and heat the glass near but not directly under the tobacco and the glass will get hot enough under the tobacco to cause vaporization
if you don't have it enclosed then you will need to be in a room where the air is completely still so that you can use a straw or maybe place a glass cup over the heating tobacco to capture the vapor and then lift the glass enough to sip the vapor out
it's possible to vaporize the nicotine into the upside down glass cup and then tip the cup and breath the vapors
i wish i would have known about that many years ago - but i only learned about it a few years ago - i tried a couple of those cheap chinese vaporizers $ 50 on ebay and they stopped working after about a month or two - then i bought a portable one that cost $ 200 and it worked fine - for pretty cheap you can buy a vaporizer type pipe that has a little metal bowl that you put the tobacco in and it closes up and heat the metal with a butane lighter and puff through the wood pipe stem
you can heat a wire with electric current - like a paper clip connected to a 12 volt battery charger that can put 10 amps of current into the paper clip will turn it red hot
if you don't leave on the current and pulse the connection on and off - you can regulate the heating of the paper clip and try to keep it form burning and put the paper clip under a glass and heat the tobacco a little and when you see smoke then make the connection times less etc . then when you see the tobacco turn dark then you know it has been vaporized and the vapor is in the air in the glass and you can breath it and get a lot of nicotine from it
there are other videos that show how to do it a little bit differently - with a frosted light bulb - clean it out with salt
well this vid is not using tobacco - i didn't watch it before i posted and edited this warning in - but it still works the same way
if you double click on the video it will go to youtube and then you can go full screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmixODIvAtM
another one
here is the way it works - once again - not tobacco though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7vtNTX4lwQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
i just thought of the easiest way of all
put a glass pyrex measuring cup on the stove and turn the stove down low - you might have to turn it up later if you don't get enough heat to the tobacco
put a small pinch in the cup and cover the top
heat it enough to get the tobacco to turn a little dark - that means the vapor is released
now figure out how to sip it out without burning yourself - i didn't figure that part out yet
or you can use a glass test tube
or you can do this ->
this guy has a really good design
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQ9DKHpJ1g&feature=endscreen&NR=1
glass bottle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRaDXM8Fm4U
put a glass pyrex measuring cup on the stove and turn the stove down low - you might have to turn it up later if you don't get enough heat to the tobacco
put a small pinch in the cup and cover the top
heat it enough to get the tobacco to turn a little dark - that means the vapor is released
now figure out how to sip it out without burning yourself - i didn't figure that part out yet
or you can use a glass test tube
or you can do this ->
this guy has a really good design
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQ9DKHpJ1g&feature=endscreen&NR=1
glass bottle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRaDXM8Fm4U
I've made it a week. I know I'm not in the clear yet. Not for a while but I think I will let this thread go gently into that good night. Thank you to everyone who posted support and strategy. I picked up a tin of 1792 and now I'm in the process of trying to learn how to smoke flake.
lordnoble: I stopped into Dewey Ave thursday and again yesterday. Thursday I got the chance to talk to Lenny who was pretty awesome. Everyone was really nice there. Thanks for the tip on that shop.
Again, I can't thank everyone enough!
lordnoble: I stopped into Dewey Ave thursday and again yesterday. Thursday I got the chance to talk to Lenny who was pretty awesome. Everyone was really nice there. Thanks for the tip on that shop.
Again, I can't thank everyone enough!
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