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anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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I do miss smoking at the bar. I understand not smoking around non smokers but, that would be nice if they had spots for a smoker to step into and have a smoke and drink.
funny fact most places seem to have loopholes that allow bars to have that option. The fact seems to be it's just easier for them to not jump through the usually mild hoops. Almost like the option is there and easier enough to use... that it's almost like the guy who asks his wife if he can go out she says sure but don't forget to do the laundry... and he says sorry guys wife wants me to do the laundry.
 
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Sep 19, 2019
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I have memories of my parents ushering me to the non smoking section upon entering a restaurant.... I couldn't tell you when smoking sections of restaurants ceased to be, but I must say I like the idea.

I started smoking in my library this winter, and I intend to give the walls and ceiling a scrub when it warms up. I'm always alone when I do, no wife or kid present, and I only smoke once or twice a week anyway so I'm not too fussed. The smell of a strong Latakia blend does tend to waft into the hallway, so generally I stick to non-latakia.

I also head down to a local bar every now and again and sip on some cheap scotch with a pipe. They're one of the few bars in my town that still allow smoking
 

Gabby Hayes

Might Stick Around
Jun 6, 2021
51
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So. Cal.
Outside of smoke shops, Las Vegas casinos are the only bastions for indoor smoking that I’m aware of these days. Personally, I don’t smoke indoors at home for my wife’s sake. Even in the casinos there are still restricted areas where you can’t smoke a cigar or a pipe. I agree with what others have stated in that we need to be gentlemanly about this pastime.
 
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Scottishgaucho

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 22, 2020
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Buenos Aires Province.
Here in Argentina you're not allowed to smoke inside any public areas including restaurants and cafes. All smokers are happy to cooperate. Having said that outside eating/drinking areas are the norm here anywy so it's not exactly a hardship.
 
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Micklander

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Feb 22, 2022
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Austin, TX
I only smoke on my back porch or in my garage. My parents smoked cigarettes indoors when I was growing up and I knew that other people could smell smoke on my clothes and things. I think it’s rather impolite to subject non smokers to smoke indoors.
 
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dctune

Part of the Furniture Now
Many of us are old enough to remember when bars were filled with cigarette smoke.

As a non smoker, the greater part of a hangover was from breathing in second hand smoke. Even a short stop for a beer after work would result in one’s clothes being saturated with stale smoke and there was no escaping it.

I’m all for the no smoking indoors laws. I can’t stand the smell of cigarettes.

I see your from Vietnam and I understand. It’s cultural to smoke and long considered bad manners not to accept and immediately smoke an offered cigarette. I wonder if that has changed?

Welcome to the forum, M.
I’m only 43, but here’s what I remember.

1. Smoking sections in restaurants. These did nothing bc all the smoke I’ve ever met refused to stay put in just the smoking section.

2. Visiting mom at work. She worked didn’t smoke in merchandising for an old retail chain called Hills. Happy bunch of coworkers I’ve ever seen anywhere. It was awesome. Everybody but mom smoked behind those double doors. The place reeked of stale cigarette smoke. But I do recall it with a certain nostalgia.

3. When I was either a young middle schooler, or maybe an old elementary schooler, I had a friend in the neighborhood who was a freshman in high school. They had an outdoor smoking section off the cafeteria where apparently teachers and students would light up after lunch.

4. I remember walking by the teachers lounge in my elementary school, and whenever that door would open, seems like half the teachers were in there sucking down a quick cigarette. The smoke would just billow out that door. lol.

5. I remember going to Rupp Arena as kid to watch the Kentucky Wildcats play. If you say upper deck, you couldn’t see across the stadium to see the other fans by the end of the games. It was a combination of cigarette smoke, and the holy aura emanating from the floor as the Cats destroyed whoever they were playing. Dukes sucks.
 
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North of the Border Piper

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 12, 2021
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Toronto, Canada
Went to the hospital in Austria while on a trip. Early 90’s, likely Vienna but cannot remember for certain. Big place, 8-10 stories high, walk out of the elevator on the 5th floor, and there is this huge smoking station set up....
 
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That's unAmerican!
Here, it is against the law to text and drive, tailgate, and my city passed an ordinance that every household was required to own an assault weapon. I was told at the city council meeting that half the damn laws in our country are totally unenforceable but on the books to merely make a point. In my state, no one has even been given a ticket for texting and driving, nor any of the stuff they pass. Hell, in Alabama, you can literally drive over 100MPH on the interstate 24/7. And, if you don't drive that fast, you'll end up on the side of the road, because everyone else is.
I don't even give a shit about laws any more.
 

ZetoMegisti

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Apr 18, 2022
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South Australia
Trucks pass, parking garages exist, crops get sprayed, sites get built: We want to control what we can, but what's the point if we ignore what we cant control? Safer is safer, but living is living! The world is full of dangers, pollution and hazardous particulates are incredibly common, context is important.

The logical conclusion to my mind, our 2020's zeitgeist has a heavily entrenched neurosis stemming from deeply empassioned and defensive attitudes of health, vanity and policy. Non-smoking restrictions have gone overboard to my mind. Not being able to light up inside in any pub, club or place open to the public is assinine and leaves too few public areas for smokers to gather and share interests, we are literally left out.

In the context of common-nonsense and the people that perpetuate it, I smoke my pipe when i can and where i can, in the kitchen, car, in the home office, etc.

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I believe my ancestors shared my view, translation is: 'Be cheerful, live and enjoy your life!' puffy
 

gemtx

Might Stick Around
Dec 20, 2020
63
177
Dallas, TX
I need to disagree with ZetoMegisti and agree with others here: the behavior of a gentleman (or gentlewoman) as concerns pipe-smoking is that the right of my fist to fly ends at another's nose. So does my smoke. There are dangers in living, of course, but there are also simple kindnesses to offer to others who do not care for pipe-smoke the way we love it. Pipe-smokers should be kindness-leaders. Thoughtful, aware, gentlemen.
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I'm acclimated to not smoking in public, indoors or outdoors. I occasionally smoke on a walk where it is fair to assume I won't be close enough to anyone to expose them to my smoke. I don't feel this as an oppressive restriction, but I can smoke at home, and I'm not especially gregarious, so that may account for my indifference.

If I go out for a meal, especially a little "fine dining," I don't expect to smoke, and I don't expect someone else to add their smoke to my cuisine and beverage menu.

Asthma, chemical sensitivities, COPD, and allergies can all be aggravated by secondhand smoke, so I can understand the sensitivity there.

I think I inhaled and ingested more nicotine as a non-smoking child and young adult than I ever have as a smoker. The sickest I ever got from nicotine was on a long bus ride from Chicago to Ft. Myers, Florida. So I have to balance that against my own interests as a moderate, one-bowl-a-day pipe smoker.
 
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deadidunn

Starting to Get Obsessed
May 30, 2020
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Hineston, LA
I smoke in my truck and in my shop (Man Shed), generally anytime outside. No one ever minds being around me when I do; but I am pretty reclusive, so not a lot of people around me anyway. The wife enjoys the smell of most of my pipe tobaccos.