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Talon

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Nov 7, 2021
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The temperature of the smoke is not dependent on the thickness of the walls, but the heat coming off the bowl is.

Length of the stem also has no measurable effect on the temperature of the smoke reaching the mouth.
I actually had no idea.. I thought it was a fact that Churchwardens provided a cooler smoke even if I can't detect it sometimes.
 
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edger

Lifer
Dec 9, 2016
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I used to buy into the myth myself until I learned that every pipe I smoke smokes cooler if I sip. Also, I had to learn to smoke my tobacco dry!
I just bought a rusticated Peterson 701 (tankard) and some of the rustification "grooves" are quite deep leaving very thin walls. This pipe smokes cool and flavorfully ! Go figure.
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I think smoking a filter pipe without the filter or adaptor is a viable option with most pipes designed to take a filter. A few might have some turbulence in he airway, but I haven't encountered that.
 

F4RM3R

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Nov 28, 2019
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Well yes that’s part of the magic of briar, that it insulates because it transfers heat so slowly. But thick or thin wall doesn’t really matter much as you’re not really getting to the maximum capacity of thermal energy. But the briar sort of provides a cushion, soaking up a slow but steady amount of heat and lessening drastic temperature fluctuations. I think you could have a slower and sparser cadence with a thick walled briar, but is anyone gonna smoke slow enough to actually notice the difference?
 

Charlie718

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I can't see how well thickness would make any discernible difference especially compared to moisture level in the tobacco, how tightly you pack and cadence. In general, you'll probably enjoy a cooler smoke in a very thin walled pipe as you'll be more aware from the touch if you're smoking too fast.
That’s my thinking
 

Charlie718

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I think smoking a filter pipe without the filter or adaptor is a viable option with most pipes designed to take a filter. A few might have some turbulence in he airway, but I haven't encountered that.
The fact that you sometimes smoke your Savinelli’s without filters with no issues made me okay with buying a 6mm Sav finally lol
 
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Mar 1, 2014
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Nah, with the speed the smoke travels up a churchwarden's shank, there's little time to cool. The pipe would have to be VERY long to make a difference.
That's where the Reverse Calabash comes in: 100% Proven. Reverse Calabash pipes provide a Cooler Smoke. - http://tobaccodays.com/2014/03/100-proven-reverse-calabash-pipes-provide-a-cooler-smoke/

I am partial to 9mm filter pipes and long shank Canadian pipes for this reason, but getting a true reverse calabash chamber is always the ideal goal.
 

Chasing Embers

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Nov 12, 2014
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That's where the Reverse Calabash comes in: 100% Proven. Reverse Calabash pipes provide a Cooler Smoke. - http://tobaccodays.com/2014/03/100-proven-reverse-calabash-pipes-provide-a-cooler-smoke/

I am partial to 9mm filter pipes and long shank Canadian pipes for this reason, but getting a true reverse calabash chamber is always the ideal goal.
After reading through that, other variables could've come into play. Slight variations in cadence, packing, and moisture could also be contributing factors. Never really noticed a difference with them myself but I don't smoke hot.
 

MacMarty89

Can't Leave
Dec 8, 2021
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To me bowls with thin walls just look cheap. That's why I won't buy them in the first place. It has kept me from purchasing some Dunhill pipes. I don't think one could necessarily state that thin walled pipes get hotter than their thick counterparts, but you do feel it quicker.
 
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WVOldFart

Lifer
Sep 1, 2021
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I can't see how well thickness would make any discernible difference especially compared to moisture level in the tobacco, how tightly you pack and cadence. In general, you'll probably enjoy a cooler smoke in a very thin walled pipe as you'll be more aware from the touch if you're smoking too fast.
Agreed. I always said that if the pipe is hot, my mouth will be hot....so slow down.
 

alexnc

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Oct 25, 2015
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I prefer thick walls. I can’t say I really notice a difference in the temp of the smoke. But I like the comfort of holding a pipe that doesn’t get hot. Even smoking a clay, which gets hot, I don’t find anything about the temp of the smoke to detract from the experience. Also, if I love a thick walled pipe long enough, I know I have room for over boring or a light re-drill if I ever smoke one enough that it mattered, which I’ve not. But I’ve only smoked a few briars up to 5 years.
 
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kcghost

Lifer
May 6, 2011
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I smoke thicker walled pipes because I have a tendency to smoke my pipe way too fast. I have to provide some protection for the hand holding the pipe.
 
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pauls456

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Aug 19, 2020
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The interaction between the bowl shape, its capacity, and the wall thickness is important, but the interaction is complex and not easily generalized.
 
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