The 14 Types of People You See on Internet Forums

[lazar]

I don't think you understand my position. I am not arguing whether or not you are correct in excoriating Trump supporters. I am arguing whether or not it makes sense for you to feel persecuted while you are persecuting people you disagree with. I know how exhausting moral superiority can be, and it's painful to watch you feel victimized for it. My condolences.

I'm not sure why you're assuming that I'm feeling victimized and persecuted. Because that's the conservative narrative about alleged snowflake liberals or what? I didn't even make the original comment to begin with. In any case, I did understand your position - I was just being facetious by pointing out that if Trump openly defends white supremacists who are also his avid supporters, the equation really isn't all that far-fetched. If moral superiority means anti-Nazi, sure I'll wear the badge, and proudly: I am morally superior to Nazis.
brightleaf - Um, no. "Nazi" and "very fine people" are mutually exclusive terms. You can't be both.

It is only when we attack those that haven't done us wrong because they are different that evil arises.

You mean like Nazis do, by definition?

 

[brightleaf]

You must have a dictionary that no one else has.

I wouldn't expect you ever tried to understand the groups you hate. Try studying and researching historical documents and the writings of the groups in their own words. If you only read the biased opinions of those that have you mesmerized you won't get the truth.

 

[ashdigger]

I did not see this thread going into a ditch. Yet here we are.
Did you see what I did there?

 

[georged]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

 

[aldecaker]

Hiya, Ash! How you been?
Lazar, must be my mistake. I thought you had made comments regarding what a tough room this was for lefties in previous posts. So, no, not using the conservative narrative. I'm using the Aldecaker narrative. And no, I don't doubt that you are morally superior to all Nazis. I do doubt that you are morally superior to every single Trump supporter, whom you are conflating with Nazis.

 

[lazar]

You must have a dictionary that no one else has.

I wouldn't expect you ever tried to understand the groups you hate. Try studying and researching historical documents and the writings of the groups in their own words. If you only read the biased opinions of those that have you mesmerized you won't get the truth.

WTF? Can you name any good Nazis who are "very fine people"? By definition, Nazis want to annihilate entire groups of human beings based on their ethnic or racial heritage. And that's just for starters when it comes to their fucked up ideology. What exactly do you want to defend about Nazism? I'm not saying that all of them are irredeemable or that that have no good qualities on an individual basis. Hitler was a vegetarian and loved children blah blah blah. Some people who were previously Nazis and later saw the error of their ways and transformed might have become very fine people in the process. But you're going to be an apologist for actual Nazis?
I can't believe I'm explaining why Nazis are bad to a guy on a pipe forum.

 

[perdurabo]

Are there really any Nazis still alive?

 

[aldecaker]

I think we can all agree, out of hand, that Nazis are, in fact, bad.

 

[sablebrush52]

 

[aldecaker]

^ :rofl:

 

[lazar]

Lazar, must be my mistake. I thought you had made comments regarding what a tough room this was for lefties in previous posts. So, no, not using the conservative narrative. I'm using the Aldecaker narrative. And no, I don't doubt that you are morally superior to all Nazis. I do doubt that you are morally superior to every Trump supporter, whom you are conflating with Nazis.

Ah, I see. You are partially correct - I did comment that when certain threads descend into politics, they merrily go along as long as all the posts are of a conservative bent. As soon as a lefty comments, those conservatives start shouting "SHUT IT DOWN! UNCIVIL!" It was not a criticism of the mods, and it was not a statement that I was being victimized - it was an observation that people felt it was okay to break the no politics rule as long things stayed along the conservative line of thought. And no, I didn't conflate Nazis with Trump supporters, I quoted the president in his defense of those Nazis who are avid Trump supporters.

 

[aldecaker]

And if you're saying that being a vegetarian was one of Hitler's "good qualities", well, that's just a swing and a miss.

 

[lazar]

I think we can all agree, out of hand, that Nazis are, in fact, bad.

Man, let's hope so!

 

[lazar]

Are there really any Nazis still alive?

There are certainly people who identify as such, and if political correctness has taught us anything it's that we must respect an indivdual's right to self-definition. :rofl:

 

[aldecaker]

I'm not saying I'm the best guy in the world, but one doesn't have a Yiddish nickname because of admiration for Nazis.

 

[sablebrush52]

 

[brian64]

Can we all agree it's irony that a Mod started this thread?

 

[ashdigger]

I met a Nazi German descendant from Argentina a few weeks ago here in my neck of the woods. And the fact that this thread exists would shock him.

 

[aldecaker]

So, what I've learned is this: depending on your perspective, it seems like anyone can wax political and get away with it, provided they are on the opposite team. I'm going to fall back into my first trench: we all seem to take a lot of lumps around here.
And yes, that is some pretty ironic irony.

 

[brightleaf]

I am not defending anyone, just wondering how you can you use an example of someone seeing the good in everyone as being bad. You could replace NAZI with any racial epithet or derogatory word and it wouldn't be any different. What you are saying is bigoted and full of hate. Which is what I thought you were pretending to better than. You represent a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.

By the way NAZI was a political party that no longer exists, but the socialists of the past are trying to make a comeback, which is why we need to preserve personal liberty and the rights of the individual to be more sacrosanct than the rights of the state. We cannot let one group that thinks another group is wholly bad dominate the nation. And it is why we have a Constitution to protect the minority from the majority.