The 14 Types of People You See on Internet Forums

[aldecaker]

I'm just not fond of going around over-using the term "nazi".

 

[aldecaker]

How's the popcorn, Jesse?

 

[brightleaf]

I agree aldecaker, he uses the term as if it lets him feel better than other people. Use terms in their proper context, not as derogatory slurs.

 

[lazar]

So, what I've learned is this: depending on your perspective, it seems like anyone can wax political and get away with it, provided they are on the opposite team. I'm going to fall back into my first trench: we all seem to take a lot of lumps around here.

Maybe so. Maybe the week I made that observation was skewed, but it happened twice in a couple of days, and I'd seen it happen on other forums, too. I can't remember an instance of progressives on a pipe forum calling for a thread to be shut down because a conservative spoke up. Then again, I can't remember a political conversation between progressives on a pipe forum, pretty much ever!

 

[aldecaker]

Well, to be fair, I wasn't singling out Lazar. I just meant I don't like the general phenomenon.

 

[aldecaker]

Again, it must be the perspective thing. I feel like comments disparaging anyone to the right of Che Guevara float around so commonly it's like they are just part of the wallpaper. But, oh boy, say anything less than sycophantic about anyone to the left of Richard Nixon, and the place just blows apart. It's the opposite of what you see.

 

[lazar]

I am not defending anyone, just wondering how you can you use an example of someone seeing the good in everyone as being bad. You could replace NAZI with any racial epithet or derogatory word and it wouldn't be any different. What you are saying is bigoted and full of hate. Which is what I thought you were pretending to better than. You represent a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.

By the way NAZI was a political party that no longer exists, but the socialists of the past are trying to make a comeback, which is why we need to preserve personal liberty and the rights of the individual to be more sacrosanct than the rights of the state. We cannot let one group that thinks another group is wholly bad dominate the nation. And it is why we have a Constitution to protect the minority from the majority.

As I said, I'm using the term Nazi for people who self-identify as such. You want to change it to fascist, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, or whatever, it doesn't matter. And sorry, but relativism does not work when it comes to Nazism! Are you serious about equating it "with any racial epithet or derogatory word"? Do you think saying "I hate Nazis" is the equivalent of saying "I hate Jews"? I'm "bigoted and full of hate" because I think Nazis are bad? Just wow. :crazy:

 

[jaytex1969]

Smoke yer pipes... :nana:

 

[anthonyrosenthal74]

The term "Nazi" gets thrown around way too loosely and easily, and frankly it makes me sick. I'm going to start carrying a photos of Jews during the holocaust so when someone uses the word I can show what the real Nazis did. Maybe I'll start posting pictures online too. I wouldn't call people from either side of the political tracks a Nazi. To do so is pure ignorance.

 

[aldecaker]

Yeah, I don't agree with cheapening the horrors of Nazism by overusing the word as an epithet. Just like overusing the term "racism" actually detracts from the true brutality of that mindset.
I'm going to go smoke my pipe.

 

[perdurabo]

And I'll start flashing a post card from Venezuela when the "I'm a Progressive" gets thrown around.

 

[aldecaker]

Good luck finding one. They're out of paper.

 

[perdurabo]

It's all about Limiting Government, guys. That's the reason we've lasted this long, but we can always look to Mr Lamm to help us on our progressive journey.

 

[lazar]

I agree about cheapening the word and throwing it around carelessly.... which is why I clarified that I am using the term in relation to people who self-identify as Nazis. To them it's not an insult, which is why you see them wearing Nazi regalia at their rallies, doing the sieg heil salute etc. "Neo-Nazi" is probably a better term.

 

[brian64]

To them it's not an insult, which is why you see them wearing Nazi regalia at their rallies, doing the sieg heil salute etc.

True, but there have also recently been a number of protests where people were prominently displaying the Hammer & Sickle...but it's interesting that little or nothing ever seems to be said about that.
IMO, Lenin, Stalin & Mao were just as bad as Hitler. The untold millions that they slaughtered and maimed deserve just as much empathy as the victims of the Nazis...IMO.

 

[sablebrush52]

We've had a couple of people here who identified a Neo-Nazis. One guy who posted a link to a holocaust denial site, insisting that the holocaust was a hoax. Nobody administering the forum did anything about it, so I took my leave of this place. Finally the NN got the boot, not because he was a white supremacist, but because he went postal on another member here.
Being a Neo-Nazi wasn't a problem, being a rude Neo-Nazi was. Eventually I was persuaded to return to posting here, but I don't forget how that was handled. Ever.

 

[lazar]

brian64 - agreed. I'm glad the Che Guevara chic seems to have died down. The romanticization of that, Mao, and Soviet Russia is so ignorant. John Lennon had it right in "Revolution".
sablebrush52 - sad and disappointed to hear that. Isn't there something in the site rules about racism, hate speech etc.? If not, there should be.

 

[sablebrush52]

sablebrush52 - sad and disappointed to hear that. Isn't there something in the site rules about racism, hate speech etc.? If not, there should be.

Well, there are rules of etiquette now, and I don't remember what they were a couple of years ago when this happened. In any event, water over the dam. Just worth remembering.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Godwin's law- yes, that's it, and thank you, George!
So, time to go night night. Be surprised if this sucker is still around by morning.

 

[sablebrush52]

Hitler - The Dunhill of Dictators.