Too much black rustication ... is there no more clean briar left? I don't want to pay over $300 for a simple smooth pipe.But, what are some things you've noticed being done across several different pipemakers? Lately or historically?
Too much black rustication ... is there no more clean briar left? I don't want to pay over $300 for a simple smooth pipe.But, what are some things you've noticed being done across several different pipemakers? Lately or historically?
I just noticed something else: Tristan Lefebvre makes pipes in the shape and finish of Castellos. They’re homages I guess. They’re described as such.Well, depends on what kind. Mimicry, counterfeiting, forgery, parody, fakery, mockery, and parroting can be type of imitations that aren't very flattering.
This is quite funny. Okay, let's talk about Peder Jeppesen. He has made pipes for nearly 25 years; "I started at Karl Erik Ottendahl, and continued after this at legendary Erik Nørding, from whom I learned all steps of pipe making and decoration work."So, something I've noticed over the last decade, is that whenever another Scandinavian pipemaker makes stride forward in fashion design for their pipes, Erik Nording seems to copy that in his designs. I'm not sure if it is just because I love the Scandinavian designs more that I notice them here, or it may be occurring everywhere.
Now, before you take me wrong, I love Erik Nording's work. I've met him three times, and had the pleasure of setting at a table with him when he last visited The Briary and listened his hunting stories and jokes, as we all egged him on. I also have eight pipes by him, and all are favorites.
But, this is just an observation. For all I know Erik is collaborating with these other Scandinavian pipemakers but... to the pipesmoker not "in the know," it sure looks like he quickly steals ideas. And, culturally, this may be ok for his area.
This first pipe is a Nording, newly listed. Does that metalwork look familiar? Pedder Jeppesen didn't invent putting a tad bit of fany metalwork on the stem, but he has become well known for it in his Neerup line of pipes and he did them in this certain way. .
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When you see the next one, don't get confused. This is not an Eltang, but it looks like one. Nording also started making these just after Eltang released his similar design.
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Maybe it's just a style, like as if some fancy designer, say Jordache, started selling jeans with holes in them, and next thing you know, Levis and Lee Jeans start tearing holes in theirs also. Nording obviously has made some unique design moves of his own.
I don't know of any other pipemaker that started wrapping their pipes, similar to how advertisers will wrap a car for you to advertise their Mountain Dews or Cokes.
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So, I am not saying that Erik isn't original, but what other pipemakers have you seen start copying the innovations of another. Show us, and let us know what you think of this. Is it just thievery, just the way fashion works, or is it an innovation every time a pipemaker comes up with something new, it is fair game to all of the other pipemakers?
And, try not to take this all too seriously. We all should love these pipemakers... right? But, what are some things you've noticed being done across several different pipemakers? Lately or historically?
Is it normal or Evil?
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Show me examples of Nordings that Jeppeson copied before he Jeppeson arrived at his style?This is quite funny. Okay, let's talk about Peder Jeppesen. He has made pipes for nearly 25 years; "I started at Karl Erik Ottendahl, and continued after this at legendary Erik Nørding, from whom I learned all steps of pipe making and decoration work."
So there you have it. Peder Jeppesen makes ornamentation like Erik Nørding, because that's who he learned it from. The pipe you picked to showcase said ornamentation is a blatant copy of a Sixten Ivarsson design, the 63 and 64 in Stanwell catalogs. That pipe shape pre-exists Peder by some 20 years at least.
If the pipe makers aren't crying about copying, I wouldn't worry about it. They certainly aren't. Imitation, after all, is the sincerest form of flattery.
That’s a really good point that escaped me. He does make pipes for a few other folks, like Per Jensen.I had assumed that Jeppersen made and sold to Nording the Jeppersen looking pipes. Or at least the fitments.
Yikes, that's a bad sentence. I'll leave now.And while I don't have neither the Eltang nor the Nording Popeye pipe, I prefer the Nording copy.
When I was talking to Skip at the Briary the other day on an unrelated matter, he mentioned that Nørding did a small set of pipes with ornate metalwork and inset coins from ancient Byzantium some decades back.Show me examples of Nordings that Jeppeson copied before he Jeppeson arrived at his style?
Just show me some metal ornate bandwork done by Nording 25+ years ago.
That said, it’s all pretty obvious. But, on the other hand, this thread wasn’t meant to be taken too seriously, just catalyst for thought.
Gotta love Nordic minimalism.Very convenient to get inspired by an arbitrary thing, just after someone else makes a huge splash with the same design. This is why I never trust what business reps say. It's all full of shit. Anyone who believes that Nording just happened to be inspired by this thingamajig to make the exact shape that Eltang did is an idiot.
...of course take that with a grain of salt.
Big bowls an heavy designsMany of the Nordings look horrible. I really dislike them.
Adding a taper to the bowl isn't "his spin." It's the normal Danish Billiard shape, impressed so deeply on the Danish psyche by Ivarsson and his children, almost every 'traditional' pipe shape gets the Ivarsson design treatment....and this is his spin on a Traditional shape, with his touch, that says this is a YETI...
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Adding a taper to the bowl isn't "his spin."