Bahahahaha.… many years ago by Nabisco to discontinue my beloved Bacon Thins.
Bahahahaha.… many years ago by Nabisco to discontinue my beloved Bacon Thins.
yes, too true, and sad, agreed.… I feel more for all those employees that now have to find new employment and even more so for those that have/had very tobacco-related positions.
No worries . I was complaining a week or so ago about the topic of SG/GH tins being bad coming back up over and over. I was reminded that some people don’t know about this and I agreed. So, like many humans, I too can be hypocritical in my opinions lolTruth. You are correct. I stuck my chin out, and won’t be surprised at contrary opinions. At least we share pipe smoking, for as long as it lasts.
welcome to the internet pal....I enjoy pipe smoking arguably as much as any of us on this forum. But at risk of sounding like a pinhead, there is much agonising hand-wringing on the forum over corporate tobacco business. Too much. It’s like a group of gossiping ladies under the hair dryers at the salon. The self-righteousness and inflated belief in assuming any of us has an informed opinion is getting a little boring (including this one, too, of course!) Is it really the strong belief here that our own actions or opinions are right and everyone else’s are wrong? Is it impossible that others (who concocted and executed these business decisions) might have valid viewpoints, whatever the heck they might be? Is it a bloody disaster? Is the sky falling? The end of the pipe smoking world as we know it? I don’t think so. Even if it is, I think we vastly overstate our relevance and importance as a community and demographic.
This forum is based in the United States, where we have the right to be wrong if we so choose to be. So, if you want to have a different take on things than I do, well you can be wrong if you want to be.Is it really the strong belief here that our own actions or opinions are right and everyone else’s are wrong? Is it impossible that others (who concocted and executed these business decisions) might have valid viewpoints,
sure but at the same time there was a lot of what most generously could be described as shocking hyperbole (not the generously described part). There is a difference between passion and self importance.I mean, I feel like maybe you struggle to understand the purpose of the forum. Of course losing the largest US producer of tobacco, who has existed for 175 years, is going to cause a stir. Hundreds of tobaccos, most likely being someone's favorite, are gone. Of course we overstate our relevance. If we didn't, there wouldn't be a forum full of these people. I recommend skipping posts that do not interest you rather than running the risk that you "vastly overstate (y)our relevance and importance as a community and demographic."
Yeah but all those threads died down; they’re no longer on the first page. And then this guy made yet another thread about it.I kind of get it specifically when there are multiple threads that are seemingly parallel and turn into the same talking points etc. The problem I have is once I've replied to a thread, I get alerts for that thread even after it seems to have run it's course, and I've lost interest. Now obviously I could just ignore the alert, but I just can't help myself. I need to know what wrong thing was said on the internet on any given day!
You calling me happy?Can anyone else tell who is happy or unhappy in life by their comments? The biggest curmudgeons on this board are truly happy people and enjoy their tobacco, pipe, and life.
Thank you all for sharing your ranting and ravings. It’s what we do here.
Where's Cosmic?
Losing Mac Baren is a disaster. The roll cakes and the HH line are gone forever. STG manufactured Navy Flake won’t be the same as the original; STG will never case their tobaccos in the Mac Baren maple sugar, and they will never make the Mac Baren spicy cavendish. I’m lucky that I’ve got good quantities of my favorite Mac Baren blends stashed away, but it sucks for the pipe smoking world generally. There are plenty of great tobacco blends available, and yes, life will go on. However, losing that venerable catalog of blends and the tradition and know how therein remains a disaster for pipe smokers.Is it a bloody disaster?
Well, the professional blending business is a bit over 3 generations, what with blending houses still turning out their products well past the century and a half mark. That said, a great majority of the various blenders have gone tits up, swallowed up by conglomerates, their separate brands reduced to scalps worn round the conglomerate's belt. In place of a market with more idiosyncratic offerings, people are left to debate the various supposed merits of what is the same mixture, tinned under different labels.I think that, if someone from any time up to the mid 19thC were to have read (or had read to them) these Sutcliff/Macbaren/STG threads, they would be astonished to learn that so many varieties of tobacco were universally available. It really wasn't until the late 19thC that consistent, branded merchandise became generally marketed in the First World and when you look at all the different tobacco brands (and manufacturers) that used to exist then but disappeared a few years later, it all begins to fall into a different perspective.
For three generations we have been mentally conditioned to expect choice and to follow brand. We don't have to accept that conditioning. I mean, even 100 years ago only a minority of smokers exercised the kind of multifarious choices (to say nothing of a connoirsseurship arguably bordering on the effete) that now seems normal to this modern minority we comprise.
Even in the 20thC First World - I speak of Europe - there were dark times when people counted themselves lucky to get tobacco of any kind at all. I once saw a cartoon - I wish I could find it for you - of two Channel Islanders during the German occupation during WW2. The caption read:
"My horse's tail is gone? Dammy, I had to smoke something."
Far left, with the faraway eyes.Where's Cosmic?