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lawdawg

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This. One may "ignore" rumor mongers (or anyone else for that matter) on this site. If you do that, you don't see their posts.

I didn't mean to go that far with it. I'm sure OP was just trying to give us the scoop in good faith on what he heard. It's just that there have been so many rumors constantly circulating about pipes and tobacco for the past several years that we should all be skeptical of any new dramatic "news" in most instances.
 

mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
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The Big Rock Candy Mountains
I didn't mean to go that far with it. I'm sure OP was just trying to give us the scoop in good faith on what he heard. It's just that there have been so many rumors constantly circulating about pipes and tobacco for the past several years that we should all be skeptical of any new dramatic "news" in most instances.
Oh, I'd personally only "ignore" repeat offenders. Obviously, we can all do as we see fit.
 
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I just cracked a tin of Skiff off of this release, doesn't seem very moist, packed my pipe and was easy to light. Anyone else try some yet?
 
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gervais

Lifer
Sep 4, 2019
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I just cracked a tin of Skiff off of this release, doesn't seem very moist, packed my pipe and was easy to light. Anyone else try some yet?
Ive been smoking a bowl of Skiff from last year today. Good stuff, but I prefer straight Va and straight Burley. Anything with Lat is a once in a blue moon thing for me
 
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kanaia

Part of the Furniture Now
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Thank you for the kind words lawdog. I got the information right from P&K. They have no reason to lie to me and I was just passing on the info. Take it for what it's worth. That is all.
 
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unadoptedlamp

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there have been so many rumors constantly circulating about pipes and tobacco for the past several years that we should all be skeptical of any new dramatic "news" in most instances
Do you mean that the internet is not a cesspool of disinformation and cranks spouting off whatever is in the darkest recesses of their drug addled minds? I thought these groups were immune. Damn!

That's not a shot at this thread. I'm not in "the know" about anything related to this. Your recommendation of a good dose of proper skepticism and critical thinking is valid though.

Courses on proper critical thinking should be mandatory in school from kindergarten on. It's a little more complicated than many people realize.

Offhand, but related, I watched a documentary called "The Social Dilemma". It had an "after school special" vibe going on and it didn't really touch on anything I haven't read elsewhere, but I recommend it to people as a beginner's introduction to what is possible with social media, algorithms, search engines, etc.
The fact that several people from some of the biggest social companies in the world are now speaking out at the horrors that they have unleashed on society should give people pause. Well, they have been speaking out for some years now, but this is one of the few times I've seen it packaged for mass consumption.

A friend of mine is a child psychologist. When I told her I was not ever going to buy my young son a cell phone to participate, she called me a "Quaker". I think she meant Mennonite. I've never had a cell phone or social media account aside from this one, so I guess she was not far off by modern standards.

But at the same time, I use very complex technology for my work and take an interest in the social technology for the simple desire to be educated about it. I knew more about her cell phone and impacts of social media activity, search engines and these ever present algorithms than she did (the nuts and bolts of why it exists as a business model, what types of tracking and manipulation is available to these companies, etc.), but I was the "Quaker" in that conversation.

It was very surprising. And the worst part? She said that about 75% of her clients were children who have been exposed to the swamp of social media, porn, and manipulation. It is horrific. And parents willingly give their young kids these tools of madness, expecting them to somehow "get it" and stay away from the horrors that are just a curious click away.

Well, that's a sideways tangent. But, for anyone interested, that documentary is a good start and then you could get specific with concepts of manufacturing consent and manipulation from algorithims where nobody is even really "at the switch". It may prompt some people to get very critical of these tools they are absent-mindingly using. It's a brave new world we're entering, and we're all manipulated.

It is especially important for those who feel they are not manipulated. I know that I am, and I take very active measures to avoid it. It still gets through... I catch myself in moments thinking... "how could I have believed that?" and try to trace it back to an origin.

It's the people without any critical thinking awareness in these realms that keep me up at night. What a mess.
 

3rdguy

Lifer
Aug 29, 2017
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Thank you for the kind words lawdog. I got the information right from P&K. They have no reason to lie to me and I was just passing on the info. Take it for what it's worth. That is all.
What is P&K if I may ask.
 

PipesRock

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 21, 2020
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I'm not completely unprepared for this, but I could be in better shape, best brown-wise.
Same here... about 10 more Kendal Plugs and I'm done cellaring SG. That and FVF are my only interests in it anyway. But I don't mind the trickle purchases saving some for the rest of you folks through the rest of this year and next.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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Courses on proper critical thinking should be mandatory in school from kindergarten on. It's a little more complicated than many people realize.
Yes it should. And if it isn't I believe it must be in the best interest of those who are in charge of such decisions to keep it that way.
 

skydog

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 27, 2017
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Same here... about 10 more Kendal Plugs and I'm done cellaring SG. That and FVF are my only interests in it anyway. But I don't mind the trickle purchases saving some for the rest of you folks through the rest of this year and next.

Kendal Plug but not Best Brown Flake? I like them both as well as St. James. My only recent SG purchases were Kendal Plug since I've already got pounds of FVF, BBF, and SJF.

I don't believe any rumors of SG giving up on the entire US market because of a few legal hoops to jump through. I'm all for everyone stocking up but it seems like SG is especially susceptible to this type of false scarcity pandemonium. As others have mentioned, you can always buy from the EU. They have Full Virginia Plug and St. James Plug over there as well. This isn't a McClelland/Dunhill Sky is falling scenario.
 
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