Review of GH Coniston Cut Plug – A Tale of Betrayal

[jpberg]

I’m convinced Rachel made him cry on some forum.

 

[jaingorenard]

I’m convinced Rachel made him cry on some forum.

She's made me cry; I still think they shouldn't have discontinued RB plug.

Maybe I need to rephrase that as:

'She sure set me a-weepin'; I reckon they oughta have kept RB 'stead of stoppin' it!'

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

#BRING BACK BOB

He was the sauce man... Slathering it on thick like a pimp.

He's gone now though.

 

[spearheadbill]

I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy
These words he did say as I boldly walked by
Come sit down beside me and hear my sad story
smokin Brit tobacca an fittin ta cry

 

[telescopes]

#BRING BACK BOB

He was the sauce man... Slathering it on thick like a pimp.

He's gone now though.

You can find him down at the Drunkin Duck eating a slice of Cherry Pie as he slobbers from his beer soaked beard all over the counter.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

You can find him down at the Drunkin Duck eating a slice of Cherry Pie as he slobbers from his beer soaked beard all over the counter.

Very sad...

He used to pimp that sauce like a pimp from Macon Georgia would pimp a Cadillac load of New York hoes... With a heavy hand, that is.

The factory floor was his Motel 6, he sauced that tobacco like he just didn't care, and everybody knew he didn't.

 

[condorlover1]

View attachment 364865Oh yeh. I like what I see!

Thats a really nice 'Flasher Mac' for exposing your Old Dark Fired!

 

[paulfg]

Oh, I’m sorry—did I miss somethin’ here? Last I checked, Gawith Hoggarth ain’t some kindly housewife bakin’ cherry pies for the whole town, nor are they some altruistic saint handin’ out masterfully crafted tobacco for free. No, sir, they’re a business. And you know what that means? Our relationship’s a transactional one—plain and simple. I’m buyin’; they’re sellin’. That’s how it works.

Now, I didn’t realize I was supposed to be grateful on top of it all. Grateful for what, exactly? For payin’ my hard-earned dollars and hopin’ I get somethin’ worth the price? As far as I’m concerned, they’re a company makin’ money like any other, and what business worth its salt doesn’t want a happy customer?

All I’m askin’ is for them to do right by the folks who keep ‘em afloat. I ain’t askin’ for charity. I pay my way, and in return, I expect quality. If that’s too much to ask, well, maybe they oughta rethink how they do business.

or you could just not buy it,if it bothers you that much

 

[MisterBadger]

Does typing '...n'' save time over typing '...ng'?

It sho' does. Apparently.

 

[jpberg]

 

[telescopes]

Home - The Drunken Duck Inn

drunkenduckinn.co.uk

 

[Pipke]

That’s a good one. Since when did everyone suddenly become a “super taster?” I can’t count the number of gatherings I’ve been to when some person feels the need to announce that they are a f$cking super taster.

Pure fucking arrogance.

 

[jaingorenard]

I hate to do this, but the OP does have a bit of a point (in spite of the faux dialect). Some of G&H's tobaccos have changed, more than just the usual fluctuations, and many people have noticed. Although OP himself may need a larger sample size than a lot bought in 2023 and some in '24.

On one level, who cares, as long as people still like it and want to smoke it.

 

[fireground_piper]

I hate to do this, but the OP does have a bit of a point (in spite of the faux dialect). Some of G&H's tobaccos have changed, more than just the usual fluctuations, and many people have noticed. Although OP himself may need a larger sample size than a lot bought in 2023 and some in '24.

On one level, who cares, as long as people still like it and want to smoke it.

I mean, with only a sample size of 2 and in a 12 month period, OP can't even confirm the first sample was even what it was supposed to be. Maybe the first order was buggered and he doesn't even realize, claiming it's the second just because it wasn't to his preference.

 

[sablebrush52]

On one level, who cares, as long as people still like it and want to smoke it.

Kind of where I'm at in general. There are versions of famous blends on the market that are crap compared to what they were. There are companies that put out blends with "green" tobaccos because they want their money as quickly as possible, whose green tobaccos are greatly praised.
I may think people are smoking crap, but it doesn't matter what I think. All that matters is do you enjoy what you're smoking.

 

[telescopes]

I hate to do this, but the OP does have a bit of a point (in spite of the faux dialect). Some of G&H's tobaccos have changed, more than just the usual fluctuations, and many people have noticed. Although OP himself may need a larger sample size than a lot bought in 2023 and some in '24.

On one level, who cares, as long as people still like it and want to smoke it.

I don't think anyone takes exception with the fact that he noticed a change. Many people have noted changes in levels of sauce used. I think where the OP ran into resistance was the entitled arrogance of thinking GH somehow failed to live up to some standard of excellence that seemed ridiculous based on his limited sample size and more importantly, the nature of making tobacco the way GH is committed to making it. By rejecting observations that leaf changes, government regulations that create hardship hurdles for the company to leap through, and the fact that the company now has to manufacture tobacco that can be sold in multiple markets each with various legal requirements, the OP failed to construct his observation in the context of realia. The change is writing style from the type used in his initial post seemed unusual. WTF? Later, a good bit of trolling seemed to be implied. But of course, forums are for presenting critical observations for sure. Pontifications can get old.

 

[Briarcutter]

There’s a pain that comes with seeing somethin’ you loved—somethin’ you thought was timeless—get twisted into a shadow of itself. That pain hit me square in the gut with GH’s Coniston Cut Plug. What once was a masterpiece, a true gem among tobaccos, has been turned into somethin’ so far beneath its name it might as well be called somethin’ else entirely.

The Glory Days of Coniston Cut Plug:​

I remember the first time I laid eyes on it, felt its texture, and caught that aroma. It was like meetin’ an old-fashioned gentleman—refined, dignified, but carryin’ a touch of mystery. The scent was a perfect storm of old-school male cologne, rich and bold, drawin’ you in like the smell of leather and cedar in a fine shop. The texture? Rubbery but pleasant, like it was askin’ to be handled with care.

Then came the smoke itself—full-flavored and complex. On one hand, it had a rough edge: spicy, smoky, and earthy like a campfire on a cold night. On the other, it had a smoothness that felt like it was reachin’ for somethin’ higher. The floral notes danced with the smoky ones, and the room note—ah, the room note—took me straight to a church sermon, incense hangin’ heavy in the air, transportin’ you somewhere beyond yourself. It burned slow, lettin’ you savor every puff, every moment. It wasn’t just tobacco; it was an experience.

The Fall of a Giant:​

Fast forward to my second purchase. The first sign somethin’ was wrong? It didn’t even look the same. That rubbery texture I loved? Gone. The smell? Off. Close, maybe, but close ain’t good enough when you’re talkin’ about somethin’ this special. Spongy, they made it—soft in all the wrong ways, like it had been watered down in spirit and soul.

Then came the ultimate betrayal: the smoke. What used to be a symphony was now a dull hum. Flat, uninspired, like someone stripped all the beauty and left the bones. The room note? Forget it. Gone was that rich, incense-like aroma, replaced by somethin’ so mediocre I can barely even recall it.

A Rubbish Rebranding:​

I tried. Lord knows I tried to make peace with it, to find even a shadow of the old magic in this new imposter. But the more I smoked it, the more I realized this wasn’t Coniston Cut Plug—it was somethin’ else entirely, and it didn’t deserve the name. GH oughta be ashamed of themselves for takin’ somethin’ so beautiful, so unique, and turnin’ it into rubbish.

Final Thoughts:​

The old Coniston Cut Plug was my introduction to GH tobaccos, and I thought I’d found a companion for life. But they’ve destroyed it, and no amount of nostalgia or blind hope will bring it back. What’s left is a hollow imitation that does nothin’ but remind me of what’s been lost.

Call it somethin’ else, GH. You don’t deserve to call it Coniston Cut Plug anymore.

More power to you brother, keep them coming! Your opinion is worth just as much as anyone's.

 

[jpberg]

I hate to do this, but the OP does have a bit of a point (in spite of the faux dialect). Some of G&H's tobaccos have changed, more than just the usual fluctuations, and many people have noticed. Although OP himself may need a larger sample size than a lot bought in 2023 and some in '24.

On one level, who cares, as long as people still like it and want to smoke it.

But.
My personal experience says since 1998, which is when I started really pounding GH, there have been changes.
There have been more times than not when it has been difficult to get, many many stories I won’t bore you with.
The “changes” just happen. We’re not talking about Rattrays leaving Perth, or Dunhill going to Murray’s, or Condor going to Poland, we’re talking about what happens with tobacco.
When you lay it out over decades instead of months you get a different perspective, and when you all of a sudden can call any number of merchants and get as much as you want of whatever you want, well, it pisses you off to read self important pissants whining about their very small perspective on the subject.
And for the record, Bob Gregory can kiss my ass. He didn’t give a fuck if we ever got GH over here.
Next time somebody stateside speaks highly of him, ask them where they were getting their GH while he was at the helm.

 

[georged]

But.
My personal experience says since 1998, which is when I started really pounding GH, there have been changes.
There have been more times than not when it has been difficult to get, many many stories I won’t bore you with.
The “changes” just happen. We’re not talking about Rattrays leaving Perth, or Dunhill going to Murray’s, or Condor going to Poland, we’re talking about what happens with tobacco.
When you lay it out over decades instead of months you get a different perspective, and when you all of a sudden can call any number of merchants and get as much as you want of whatever you want, well, it pisses you off to read self important pissants whining about their very small perspective on the subject.
And for the record, Bob Gregory can kiss my ass. He didn’t give a fuck if we ever got GH over here.
Next time somebody stateside speaks highly of him, ask them where they were getting their GH while he was at the helm.

We've had about enough of your pragmatic and well-reasoned world view around here, Mr. Berg.

Internet Screeching is necessary to the continued and happy existence of a percentage of Earth's H. sapiens, and taking away one of their favorite subjects to bitch about is as cruel as taking away a Border Collie's favorite tennis ball.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[jpberg]

We've had about enough of your pragmatic and well-reasoned world view around here, Mr. Berg.

Internet Screeching is necessary to the continued and happy existence of a percentage of Earth's H. sapiens, and taking away one of their favorite subjects to bitch about is as cruel as taking away a Border Collie's favorite tennis ball.

You should be ashamed of yourself.



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Sorry George. I know I get out of control.