Review of GH Coniston Cut Plug – A Tale of Betrayal

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condorlover1

Lifer
Dec 22, 2013
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Sounds like the old guy/young man awkwardly homoerotic advert that was considered for STP’s War Horse😆

I never understood putting writings like these in reviews.
That was the original Gallaghers 1930s advert with the old guy putting his arm around a young man in overalls cutting up a War Horse Bar outside of a ship yard with the reworded caption 'Piss off you old pervert' and then followed by the famous advertising slogan. War Horse. Tastes like shit. Buy some!


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VDL_Piper

Lifer
Jun 4, 2021
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You do realise this is made from a plant that may have had more sunshine, less water, grown in a different paddock, missed a fertilizer application, was harvested late because of rain, sat in a shed for an extra month because of a supply chain issue. Just one of these things would change the flavour profile of a certain tobacco let alone 2 or 3 or all of them. I’m damn amazed that blenders can even replicate year on year something with a close approximation to last years!
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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You do realise this is made from a plant that may have had more sunshine, less water, grown in a different paddock, missed a fertilizer application, was harvested late because of rain, sat in a shed for an extra month because of a supply chain issue. Just one of these things would change the flavour profile of a certain tobacco let alone 2 or 3 or all of them. I’m damn amazed that blenders can even replicate year on year something with a close approximation to last years!

All that ^^^^ and then some.

I was talking to Mike McNeil the other day about the gazillion processing steps between plants in the ground and what ends up in the customer's pipe, and it is absolutely mind blowing.

The variables + the complexities + the requirements make you wonder how it ever gets done at all.

The only thing MORE mind-blowing is how people who haven't a clue whine and bitch incessantly about the companies who wrestle that bear, Monday-morning-quarterback-style.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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If they’re stickin’ to old-fashioned methods, then why do so many folks notice a shift in quality?
Different sourcing, different components and the difference in "quality" may just be a difference and not a matter of less or more. All Virginias are not alike, nor do they respond to the same processing in exactly the same way. When you have contracts to deliver by specific dates, and a supplier craps out on you, you do the best you can given the situation. Unless you have only worked on simple stuff, the unexpected happens.
We're in a period where less tobacco is being grown, suppliers leave the market to grow something else, supplies are less predictable, and weather can play merry hell.
How do I know this stuff? I talk with blenders and have done so for years.

And as for Gawith doin' things the "old-fashioned way with old people and old machines"—well, that sounds like a bit of a romantic tale
Actually, some of their equipment is more than a century old. They have also added more modern equipment, which results in the need to tune processing to get as close to the same result as possible. Germain's has gear approaching 200 years of age because it produces a result that they want. You can't just order tobacco processing equipment out of a Sears catalog, especially as they no longer publish one.

And that supposed "response" from Gawith, where they’d rather shut down than hear feedback?
Never heard her say that, just that she gets a bit testy when asked the same thing over and over and over again by people who don't actually blend tobaccos in a factory but assume that they know more about it. The Pipes Magazine forum is becoming legendary and not for positive reasons.

See, this ain’t about bashin’ Gawith or runnin’ ‘em out of business—it’s about callin’ for a little accountability.
That's good, because you would get absolutely nowhere with that.

But when that quality starts to slip, people have a right to speak up
Of course they do, but it would carry more weight if these people also respectful rather than accusatory, and/or were experienced at dealing with the complexities of the process, were knowledgeable about the realities of tobacco sources, brokers, supply lines, and other practical issues. Bitching is easy.

At least you have choices other than 1Q, for now.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Some years ago, I was asked by Simon to come up with an ad campaign for Warhorse Bar. I submitted this, but for some reason I don't understand, the reaction was somewhat less than enthusiastic.

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