So, conflate the discussion is your answer, weight v tobacco.What about the ten grossly overweight people to the one selfish smoker??
So, conflate the discussion is your answer, weight v tobacco.What about the ten grossly overweight people to the one selfish smoker??
So, conflate the discussion is your answer, weight v tobacco.
Yes, but in today's world you're not supposed to notice double standards or inconsistent, unprincipled reasoning. And most of all, you're not supposed to engage in critical thinking, which your last two posts shamelessly display...a blantant disregard for the expected blind acceptance of whatever the current edict is.Actually nothing needs to be conflated for this to be relevant. Every argument that applies to smoking applies to obesity, and I suspect the economic analyses would be largely the same in form and outcome. Raising this comparison serves a purpose: it highlights the non-economic side of the question, which is to what extent is it appropriate for government to move to modify personal behavior (whether through compulsion or suasion) in the name of societal good, or the good of the individual involved? I personally think the money arguments are a red herring.
Well don't come to Brazil; the Brazilian gubberment don't allow the importing of tobacco or anything to do with smoking (so pipes can't be imported either)...Pack up your pipes and leave Australia !!!
Oh, I think trying to reduce the medical costs may be a part of it also. I have also had a couple of younger friends who had died from cancer and neither of them were smokers or lived with smokers. There are a number of factors that play into who gets cancer and who dies from cancer. Cigarette smoking has rightly been identified as have a strong connection to lung and throat cancers, but they are not the only cause of cancer.I don’t know, it might be more about trying to save money and lives. In the past 3 or 4 years I’ve had 4 fairly young friends who were all heavy smokers die very expensive deaths at tax payer expense. They all went down fighting for their lives but only one quit smoking.
I forgot to mention that you can however bring in 5 tins of tobacco in your luggage when travelling.Well don't come to Brazil; the Brazilian gubberment don't allow the importing of tobacco or anything to do with smoking (so pipes can't be imported either)...
The Oz tax on tobacco is the same whether it is unprocessed or processed.Look into whole leaf unprocessed tobacco. In Canada you can import that and the duty is ridiculouslu cheap. Like a few dollars a pound
Yesh thats crazy. I would say its because the government is hell bent on making smoking unaffordable and being the first place to literally tax smoking to deathThe Oz tax on tobacco is the same whether it is unprocessed or processed.
Why would anyone want to pay the hefty tax on unprocessed tobacco, then have to process it yourself. And most likely end up with a barely smokeable inferior blend you because you have nil experience.
It does not make sense.
I maintain that banning Cigarettes is the correct choice, the convenience of Cigarettes is what pushed consumption beyond what anyone imagined possible.I don’t know, it might be more about trying to save money and lives. In the past 3 or 4 years I’ve had 4 fairly young friends who were all heavy smokers die very expensive deaths at tax payer expense. They all went down fighting for their lives but only one quit smoking.
I don’t disagree, but look at what a huge success was Prohibition. Marginalizing tobacco is a much easier sell.And yet alcohol costs the economy even more.
These are their numbers and research about things that are extremely hard to measure and in some cases impossible. I think there is something else going on here.
Not saying tobacco is harmless. It’s not. But then again it doesn’t matter what I think. I follow the laws, I don’t make them.
I don't think there's enough research on vaping yet to give a definite answer if it's healthier or not. I'm of the opinion it's going to cause worse damage over time than smoking. They would have to study the effects on everyone who mods vapes and what that does as theyre taking in probably 10 times the intended use at a time. I don't think smoking pg and VG will be the safe alternative people think it is.I maintain that banning Cigarettes is the correct choice, the convenience of Cigarettes is what pushed consumption beyond what anyone imagined possible.
I might be a politically reprehensible person for saying to ban anything, but the cause and effect of this situation is clear as day.
IF government cared about the population they would be subsidizing Vape.
You bet! Marginalization is much more effective than prohibition. Unfortunately we are normalizing drugs and alcohol and marginalizing tobacco. It seems bass ackwards. To quote the younger crowd; “smh”.I don’t disagree, but look at what a huge success was Prohibition. Marginalizing tobacco is a much easier sell.
Free needles are all over the place for heroin users. Don’t you know that tobacco use is much more dangerous than injecting heroin into your arm??You bet! Marginalization is much more effective than prohibition. Unfortunately we are normalizing drugs and alcohol and marginalizing tobacco. It seems bass ackwards. To quote the younger crowd; “smh”.
You're not supposed to notice these types of wildly disproportionate and contradictory ideas. You're just supposed to accept whatever the arbitrary policy of the day is as normal and reasonable.Free needles are all over the place for heroin users. Don’t you know that tobacco use is much more dangerous than injecting heroin into your arm??
I sense great sarcasm in the first part of that statement and great truth in the second sentence.I don’t disagree, but look at what a huge success was Prohibition. Marginalizing tobacco is a much easier sell.
I have seen demonstrations of the hazard to your lungs, but anyone switching to vape from cigarettes has only positive things to say about quality of life with vape.I don't think there's enough research on vaping yet to give a definite answer if it's healthier or not. I'm of the opinion it's going to cause worse damage over time than smoking. They would have to study the effects on everyone who mods vapes and what that does as theyre taking in probably 10 times the intended use at a time. I don't think smoking pg and VG will be the safe alternative people think it is.