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Piping Rooster

Can't Leave
Jun 29, 2022
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Champa Bay
Not taking a side here, but your friend IS free to do as he wishes. But, so is the company he voluntarily works for.

He wishes to smoke, the company wishes to test for nicotine and charge proportionately for their risk.

Neither decision involves governmental action nor impacts the freedom of those involved.



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I disagree. He spent a lot of money to get a "license" from the government to work in his profession where at one point in time tobacco was a none issue. Funny how my body my choice is only selective to those whose narrative it fits best.
 

Piping Rooster

Can't Leave
Jun 29, 2022
398
2,082
Champa Bay
I disagree. He spent a lot of money to get a "license" from the government to work in his profession where at one point in time tobacco was a none issue. Funny how my body my choice is only selective to those whose narrative it fits best.
And yes I understand a company not wanting employees smiking on their time or smelling foul to customers, but there are a lot of employees in fields who don't interact with customers. Its a hard line for me as I'm a very minimal government fan.
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,998
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Humansville Missouri
I hate to always be the bearer of glad tidings.:)

There are 20 cigarettes in a pack.

In 1972 I bought my first pack.

Those were two 1972 cents each, 40 cents a pack.

The old men bitched and moaned they remembered cigarettes at a dime a package, and only six cents back during the war.

Today I was taking with another old lawyer about days gone bye.

I didn’t want to smoke a pipe inside, so I fired up a 24/7 cigarette. They are two dollars a pack, or a dime each.

The inflation calculator says, that two cents in 1972 is now 14 cents.

Or $2.80 a pack.

Oh, but there’s one huge difference.

Back then I wondered where my next pack might come from.

Today I find them scattered in clothes and suits and in drawers, like the pack I found today.

If tobacco kills me tomorrow, I’ve lived fifty good years enjoying it.

Quit bellyaching, and light up.

There are Arkansawyers too poor to buy more than a dollar pack of roll your own makings at a time.
 

LeafErikson

Lifer
Dec 7, 2021
2,362
20,915
Oregon
Going out on an optimistic limb here…

I’m confident that pipe smoking will still exist and be just as, if not more popular than it is currently. If I’m not mistaken pipe smoking is statistically on the rise right now as opposed to, say, twenty years ago. The only question is how much damage can an overreaching government controlled by nefarious lobbyists mess things up. That remains to be seen, but the outcome will likely be determined by whoever has more money to fill the bank accounts of campaign funds.
Let’s get out and buy more tobacco so that at least it’s a fair fight. :ROFLMAO:puffy
 
Dec 6, 2019
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Dixieland
Going out on an optimistic limb here…

I’m confident that pipe smoking will still exist and be just as, if not more popular than it is currently. If I’m not mistaken pipe smoking is statistically on the rise right now as opposed to, say, twenty years ago. The only question is how much damage can an overreaching government controlled by nefarious lobbyists mess things up. That remains to be seen, but the outcome will likely be determined by whoever has more money to fill the bank accounts of campaign funds.
Let’s get out and buy more tobacco so that at least it’s a fair fight. :ROFLMAO:puffy

Heck yea. Everyone here is doing their part... If everybody went out and bought hundreds of pounds they would drop the whole thing.
 
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I hate to always be the bearer of glad tidings.:)

There are 20 cigarettes in a pack.

In 1972 I bought my first pack.

Those were two 1972 cents each, 40 cents a pack.

The old men bitched and moaned they remembered cigarettes at a dime a package, and only six cents back during the war.

Today I was taking with another old lawyer about days gone bye.

I didn’t want to smoke a pipe inside, so I fired up a 24/7 cigarette. They are two dollars a pack, or a dime each.

The inflation calculator says, that two cents in 1972 is now 14 cents.

Or $2.80 a pack.

Oh, but there’s one huge difference.

Back then I wondered where my next pack might come from.

Today I find them scattered in clothes and suits and in drawers, like the pack I found today.

If tobacco kills me tomorrow, I’ve lived fifty good years enjoying it.

Quit bellyaching, and light up.

There are Arkansawyers too poor to buy more than a dollar pack of roll your own makings at a time.

But most cheap packs of smokes are still 5 bucks.. How do they sell those so cheap?

I bought some a while back, the local store had them on sale, 2 packs for 5 dollars. So I bought a few.. I didn't care for them, but I'm a menthol cigarette smoker and I think it was the menthol that tasted off to me.

I'm screwed coming up with the menthol ban.. I love my smokes but I need some menthol in my cigarettes, or I really don't want them.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
But most cheap packs of smokes are still 5 bucks.. How do they sell those so cheap?

I bought some a while back, the local store had them on sale, 2 packs for 5 dollars. So I bought a few.. I didn't care for them, but I'm a menthol cigarette smoker and I think it was the menthol that tasted off to me.

I'm screwed coming up with the menthol ban.. I love my smokes but I need some menthol in my cigarettes, or I really don't want them.
Add one ounce of Sutliff Frosty Mint to a 15 oz of 1Q, Let set for a while. You have some menthol pipe tobacco.
 
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Dec 6, 2019
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Add one ounce of Sutliff Frosty Mint to a 15 oz of 1Q, Let set for a while. You have some menthol pipe tobacco.

I should I guess, old brobs was promoting the stuff for a while. I may have a pound of 1Q. It's gotta be worth the 3 dollars it would take to try it. The whole idea of menthol pipe tobacco puts me off for some reason.

That may be because one of the first tobacco blends I tried in a pipe was a menthol roll your own type. That stuff blew the top of my head off and ghosted my first briar pipe.. It held that ghost for a while. That's actually why I started rinsing my pipes with water. Of course that was after hearing John preach the water gospel.

Does it ghost a pipe? Maybe I'll throw a new cob in with the order.

Is Frosty Mint gone with the menthol ban?
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
I should I guess, old brobs was promoting the stuff for a while. I may have a pound of 1Q. It's gotta be worth the 3 dollars it would take to try it. The whole idea of menthol pipe tobacco puts me off for some reason.

That may be because one of the first tobacco blends I tried in a pipe was a menthol roll your own type. That stuff blew the top of my head off and ghosted my first briar pipe.. It held that ghost for a while. That's actually why I started rinsing my pipes with water. Of course that was after hearing John preach the water gospel.

Does it ghost a pipe? Maybe I'll throw a new cob in with the order.

Is Frosty Mint gone with the menthol ban?
It is still available at P&C. I have not had it ghost any pipe, but I use it in small concentrations. It doesn’t take much and if overdone will blow the top of your head off. If you have Prince Albert, you might try a little with it. The key that I have found is to let it age with the tobacco you blended it into. I have a C&D mocha and Sutliff chocolate blend I use it with that is extremely tasty - think about the chocolate mints you get at restaurants on the way out. Honestly, a half ounce to a pound would be sufficient. I have no ideas what Sutliff was thinking when they made frosty mint but it should come with a warning - blend in small doses. It mixed well with Lane BSA as well.
 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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Sarasota Florida
What has been most surprising is the 85% wholesale taxi n Florida on pipe tobacco has only reached a couple more states. I would have thought more than half would have come up with the tax and I am also surprised we can still order on line. I thought that would be the first to go and so far it has only reached a couple sf states. It is just a matter of time before all 50 states get wacked.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Southern Oregon
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What has been most surprising is the 85% wholesale taxi n Florida on pipe tobacco has only reached a couple more states. I would have thought more than half would have come up with the tax and I am also surprised we can still order on line. I thought that would be the first to go and so far it has only reached a couple sf states. It is just a matter of time before all 50 states get wacked.
All States need revenue to function. Since Florida doesn't have a State income tax it will find revenue through other taxes, like user taxes, of which the tobacco excise tax is an example. California has seen a significant increase in its tobacco excise tax. Makes me even happier I'm not buying tobacco except for the rare occasion.
 
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jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,264
30,360
Carmel Valley, CA
I'm in a position to never worry about having to buy tobacco again, and hopefully the kids have enough sense to throw out my collection when I'm gone as I've asked them to.
I've never understood why you throw valuable things out. I can understand not selling them, but why not donate them to charity?
And let your kids sell your stuff if they want to. From what you've indicated you have, there looks to be many thousands of buck's worth in tobacco alone; pipes worth a pile, too, except those gruesome skulls....
 

crusader

Can't Leave
Aug 18, 2014
399
362
Nebraska
If you have the means (time & space available) and are worried about the future of tobacco, I would recommend to start growing your own or at least order the leaf and start making your own blends.
I have grown my own before ant it is really a fun and interesting hobby.

You can even make your own tin art w/o the gnarly warning adds. All for just a bit of your time and minimal investment of money leaving the tax man in the rear view.
 

AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
5,491
28,124
Florida - Space Coast
For the people that say they make too much on the taxes, they make much more on taxing marijuana than they do taxing pipe tobacco, they also tend to raise our taxes whenever they want anyway.

While I do know a few cigar smokers that are getting back into pipes with the Habanos massacre, myself being one of them, I don't see that being enough to make a real difference.

I don't see it being outlawed or regulated till its impossible, but I do see "larger markets" affecting prices and supply, again back to the Habanos situation, as more and more people from Asia, mainly China get into pipe smoking / collecting pipes and tobaccos the worse it will be for everyone else.

The new Cohiba anniversary stick just came out, retail price $300 EACH they aren't marketing these to people in North America or 90% of Europe they are marketing them to Asia / China and this trend will just continue and get worse because they will sell them and roll around in their cash (while paying the rollers $3 a day ... yaaaaa socialism).
 

Pipingntrucking

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 9, 2022
112
243
Zebulon-JoCo NC
But most cheap packs of smokes are still 5 bucks.. How do they sell those so cheap?

I bought some a while back, the local store had them on sale, 2 packs for 5 dollars. So I bought a few.. I didn't care for them, but I'm a menthol cigarette smoker and I think it was the menthol that tasted off to me.

I'm screwed coming up with the menthol ban.. I love my smokes but I need some menthol in my cigarettes, or I really don't want them.
That's the basis of their point take out the flavoring to kill the habit. Back when I smoked them if no menthol were found a simple fix is a mint candy while puffing. Altoids was a go to for me. You're welcome.
 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,530
120,961
I've never understood why you throw valuable things out. I can understand not selling them, but why not donate them to charity?
Where you see value, I see pointless addiction and can't bring myself to impose it on someone else. Other than cost, three boxes I've sent to forum members containing pipes and or tobacco have vanished in the mail. One pipe I sent to George for repair boomeranged back to my address. My kids thankfully despise tobacco use so I don't have to worry about passing my bad habits onto them.
 

PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
5,238
30,898
Hawaii
What the true patriots that fight for freedom have to realize, that no matter what bill lay on the table, to take something away from the people, anywhere in the world, is taking away their freedom and rights.

I see the same thing(s) played out over and over again, discussions of how bad this is, or that is, not safe to do this, that’s dangerous etc. etc.

But hardly, do I ever see, those that do the fighting, stand up and say, as an adult, I have the right to make up my own mind, and choose my own path, and no one has a right to take that away!

I find it strange, that we have a world, where people tell people what to do, and how to live, who seem to regulate and run our lives, as if the average adult is to stupid.

Governments are not suppose to run the lives of people, but run a country.

P.S. So to answer, the future will be, where it’s going to be, by those that make a choice to either do something or nothing, and nothing is going to lead us only into more regulation of our life and freedoms ripped away. If government has it’s way, there will certainly be no smoking in the future.
 
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