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Chasing Embers

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About two weeks ago on a quick walk with a dog (in the middle of a work day) I saw another man smoking pipe in my hood. Unlike most walks, this time I did not smoke my pipe ( had to get back to my spreadsheets quickly after doggy business was done). I also did not really feel like stepping out of my way to bother another fellow pipe smoker, and was in a little bit of a hurry, so I only stared at him from a distance for half a minute or so, and continued on my way. However, that feeling of “I am not alone here” completely filled me inside. Finally, I saw someone who appreciated this diappearing practice. After all, meeting another pipe smoker in the city (Greater Toronto Area) is an extremely rare event in my experience (never happened to me ever before). I knew, though, that eventually, if he was local, I would run into him again, at some point in time. That happened about a week later (last week), on one of the evenings as I was taking Alfa (our Belgian malinois) for her night walk, I saw that same guy giving a charing light to his pipe across the street. The streets were empty, but he was right on my usual path; we walk there with the dog almost every night. So I crossed and greeted him by raising my pipe and saying “Its so rare to see another pipe smoker!” He mumbled something undistinguishable and not in a friendly tone as he was trying to lite the pipe. Immediately it became clear to me that he was not as excited about seeing
another pipe smoker as I was. I wished him happy lunting and off we went.

Oh, well! Now, that I read the common attitudes and suggested etiquette
rules, I think I understand why he seemed to be so grumpy in his response.
But, frankly, whatever! I just was excited about such a rare encounter and wanted to be friendly...

I often smoke pipe when I walk my dog, and walking a dog makes interaction with by passers or other dog owners inevitable since many people own dogs in our neighbourhood. Hence, being not social (or anti-social) while I smoke my pipe on a dog-walk is typically not an option, unless its a late hour and the streets are empty. I would prefer to not talk to others while I smoke, but people wanting to pet the dog or interactions with other dogs, make it impossible. Together, though, a pipe in the teeth and earbuds in the ears often help but even this combo does not always deter others from starting a conversation with me. Oh well, being an asshole and just ignoring people is not a choice I want to make. So, this whole etiquette thing is subject to the social context, big time. As it has already been suggested here, I neither expect others to know my personal preferences for interaction , nor I expect them to know the etiquette of the pipe smoking “brotherhood”, especially if all they know about it is that their grandpa used to do that.
Sometimes its nice to have rules but sometimes it is just as nice to say, f*** the rules, I do what works!
Smokers just think of it as smoking and attribute nothing more to it than a longer smoking cigarette rather than a hobby. He was likely no more excited about seeing someone smoking a pipe that someone walking down the street smoking a cigarette seeing someone else doing the same.
 

BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
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You owl, you.

Er, we owls, we.
 

Trainpipeman

Can't Leave
Feb 4, 2021
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About two weeks ago on a quick walk with a dog (in the middle of a work day) I saw another man smoking pipe in my hood. Unlike most walks, this time I did not smoke my pipe ( had to get back to my spreadsheets quickly after doggy business was done). I also did not really feel like stepping out of my way to bother another fellow pipe smoker, and was in a little bit of a hurry, so I only stared at him from a distance for half a minute or so, and continued on my way. However, that feeling of “I am not alone here” completely filled me inside. Finally, I saw someone who appreciated this diappearing practice. After all, meeting another pipe smoker in the city (Greater Toronto Area) is an extremely rare event in my experience (never happened to me ever before). I knew, though, that eventually, if he was local, I would run into him again, at some point in time. That happened about a week later (last week), on one of the evenings as I was taking Alfa (our Belgian malinois) for her night walk, I saw that same guy giving a charing light to his pipe across the street. The streets were empty, but he was right on my usual path; we walk there with the dog almost every night. So I crossed and greeted him by raising my pipe and saying “Its so rare to see another pipe smoker!” He mumbled something undistinguishable and not in a friendly tone as he was trying to lite the pipe. Immediately it became clear to me that he was not as excited about seeing
another pipe smoker as I was. I wished him happy lunting and off we went.

Oh, well! Now, that I read the common attitudes and suggested etiquette
rules, I think I understand why he seemed to be so grumpy in his response.
But, frankly, whatever! I just was excited about such a rare encounter and wanted to be friendly...

I often smoke pipe when I walk my dog, and walking a dog makes interaction with by passers or other dog owners inevitable since many people own dogs in our neighbourhood. Hence, being not social (or anti-social) while I smoke my pipe on a dog-walk is typically not an option, unless its a late hour and the streets are empty. I would prefer to not talk to others while I smoke, but people wanting to pet the dog or interactions with other dogs, make it impossible. Together, though, a pipe in the teeth and earbuds in the ears often help but even this combo does not always deter others from starting a conversation with me. Oh well, being an asshole and just ignoring people is not a choice I want to make. So, this whole etiquette thing is subject to the social context, big time. As it has already been suggested here, I neither expect others to know my personal preferences for interaction , nor I expect them to know the etiquette of the pipe smoking “brotherhood”, especially if all they know about it is that their grandpa used to do that.
Sometimes its nice to have rules but sometimes it is just as nice to say, f*** the rules, I do what works!
He may have a change of heart the next time that you see him.
 

happy_lunter

Lifer
Jul 1, 2020
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Vaughan, ON
Smokers just think of it as smoking and attribute nothing more to it than a longer smoking cigarette rather than a hobby. He was likely no more excited about seeing someone smoking a pipe that someone walking down the street smoking a cigarette seeing someone else doing the same.
I hear what you say but I dont think that this how it works with humans. Many of us are curious creatures, who pick interest at an unusual thing in front of them. When those peculiar devices that allow people inhale nicotine via vapor rather than smoke showed up on our streets, a few years back, they attracted, and kept attention, from by passers or other smokers for quite a while, especially the devices with big tanks full of some sort of oily substance. Although, the ads (that were legal in the beginning) made it clear that this was just a new way of doing an old thing - inhaling nicotine, many smokers (including myself) would look at those who chose to consume their nicotine this way. I think this is because vaping still was still new and unusual at the time. Today, i dont even notice if someone vapes on the street, and I see way more vapers than pipe smokers.
I guess in the place where you live tobacco pipes and pipe smokers are just as common as any tobacco smoker or consumption method, but that is certainly not the case where I live. This rarity makes a pipe an unusual sight for most in our city, whether one is an occasional smoker or a chimney. Even when you pass by the tobacco shops in the city (the few that are still in business) you are more likely to see cigar smokers hanging outside, alone or in a group, rather than a pipe smoker. So, I wouldn’t go that far and make a statement that is within itself is a generalization about all smokers. ;)
 
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Ryszard

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Smokers just think of it as smoking and attribute nothing more to it than a longer smoking cigarette rather than a hobby. He was likely no more excited about seeing someone smoking a pipe that someone walking down the street smoking a cigarette seeing someone else doing the same.

I was pointing out the difference between smokers and hobbyists. Was never the curious type myself, always kept to myself and hoped others got the message.

I honestly don't think it actually comes down to "smokers" wanting to be left alone vs. "hobbyists" looking for the friendly encounter, when the mannerisms described are so frequently seen among cigarette smokers who are not your usual "hobbyists". If you take the average workplace and observe cigarette smokers then it's not so hard to guess where "walking up to someone smoking for a conversation" really comes from. It's an often seen social interaction, particularly obvious to non-smokers at workplace settings. You go for a cigarette and another smoker follows. You light up outside of a bar and people also smoking there will eventually start talking to you, even if you stand a bit to the side. Smokers standing together in groups, you can see it anywhere. For many people being a smoker equals being open-minded and sociable - decades of advertisement campaigns have burned that into people's brains. Pair that with a bit of curiosity or nostalgia on the other party's side and you get that dreaded encounter.

Where does hobbyism start and where does smoking end... who even cares? Some days I'm more of a smoker, some days more of a hobbyist - trying to draw a clear line between the two for others... I don't need to prove anything to anyone. puffy
 
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I honestly don't think it actually comes down to "smokers" wanting to be left alone
No, Chasingembers wants to be left alone. Me, I gave a whole list of etiquette for approaching me. I never said “leave me alone.” Just don’t run at me fast choo chooing, or trying to buy my pipe, or asking to hold my pipe, or begging me to try your tobacco. Other than that, approach, and we’ll talk about the weather or something. puffy
 

happy_lunter

Lifer
Jul 1, 2020
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Vaughan, ON
I honestly don't think it actually comes down to "smokers" wanting to be left alone vs. "hobbyists" looking for the friendly encounter, when the mannerisms described are so frequently seen among cigarette smokers who are not your usual "hobbyists". If you take the average workplace and observe cigarette smokers then it's not so hard to guess where "walking up to someone smoking for a conversation" really comes from. It's an often seen social interaction, particularly obvious to non-smokers at workplace settings. You go for a cigarette and another smoker follows. You light up outside of a bar and people also smoking there will eventually start talking to you, even if you stand a bit to the side. Smokers standing together in groups, you can see it anywhere. For many people being a smoker equals being open-minded and sociable - decades of advertisement campaigns have burned that into people's brains. Pair that with a bit of curiosity or nostalgia on the other party's side and you get that dreaded encounter.

Where does hobbyism start and where does smoking end... who even cares? Some days I'm more of a smoker, some days more of a hobbyist - trying to draw a clear line between the two for others... I don't need to prove anything to anyone. puffy
+1
This describes my experience from days when I was a heavy cigarette smoker too.
 
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