Totally agree. Suppose a pipe maker offers a buyer a choice of two identical pipes but offers to mark one up as being a higher grade. There are people on this forum who would no doubt choose the marked up pipe simply due to the markup in grade.It's true some brands have distinct grades on their pipes, XX's, or distinct names that categorize price and quality levels. I have always been suspicious of such tactics. I say, simply state the qualities of the pipes, by specifications and description, and let me decide what quality level I would assign. Let me be the judge of that. But I guess many pipe buyers are more passive and want to be told, if they pay a lot they get a good pipe, and if they pay less, they get an okay pipe, or maybe a not-so-good pipe. No thanks.
It is both fine and fitting when an artisan or maker designates a particular pipe or group of pipes into a special catergory as representative of their view of a pipes beauty or the makers skill. Lots of makers do this. However, it is also good to remember that quality producers pipes smoke great no matter what line or designation they hold. For example, the wood in a castello sea rock is the same wood used in the great line or Fiamattas. My Eltang rusticated poker does not have a snail grade, but I suspect that it smokes just as well. The same is true for all good artisans and quality makersThat's is an interesting point of view, but not one that I would share. In every category of artistic endeavor there are are somewhat abstract standards of 'quality' and 'desirablility' that are coveted by both maker and consumer. When a seasoned veteran pipe maker (independent or manufacturer) attributes a higher grade to a pipe, it means a lot to many of us.
I wouldn't know much about artistic endeavor, as I've been a successful professional artist, both in fine arts and in commercial art, for close to 50 years. While there are a few foundational building blocks, mostly it's one person's subjectivity. In fine art it's do something new or unique. In commercial art it's communicate. Frankly, commercial artists generally have much better technique than what I've been seeing in galleries, but it's not about artisanry, it's about spin, and a lot about tax evasion.That's is an interesting point of view, but not one that I would share. In every category of artistic endeavor there are are somewhat abstract standards of 'quality' and 'desirablility' that are coveted by both maker and consumer. When a seasoned veteran pipe maker (independent or manufacturer) attributes a higher grade to a pipe, it means a lot to many of us.
that kind of grading makes more sense in a brick and mortar situation then an online one. You know if you go into a big pipe shop and tell them what price range you're shopping in. Or what kind of pipe you'd like to have them order from their catalog. Also good for overcharging on a pipe too.It's true some brands have distinct grades on their pipes, XX's, or distinct names that categorize price and quality levels. I have always been suspicious of such tactics. I say, simply state the qualities of the pipes, by specifications and description, and let me decide what quality level I would assign. Let me be the judge of that. But I guess many pipe buyers are more passive and want to be told, if they pay a lot they get a good pipe, and if they pay less, they get an okay pipe, or maybe a not-so-good pipe. No thanks.
It's called marketing and/or branding.Totally agree. Suppose a pipe maker offers a buyer a choice of two identical pipes but offers to mark one up as being a higher grade. There are people on this forum who would no doubt choose the marked up pipe simply due to the markup in grade.
this gives me an image of the maker showing a pipe to a customer and saying this is a grade c pipe, then turning around 180 degrees waiting a second then turning back with same pipe in hand and saying "and this is the same model in a grade a++ for only 1000 dollars more."Totally agree. Suppose a pipe maker offers a buyer a choice of two identical pipes but offers to mark one up as being a higher grade. There are people on this forum who would no doubt choose the marked up pipe simply due to the markup in grade.
labels are expensive. And it's not just a scam 100 percent. Marketing has costs and names are marketed more then products are. As weird as it sounds if label A was advertised in certain magazines and label c was marketed in another less circulated or less exclusive magazine with lower ad costs, then label c cost less to them to sell. Not sure if that's how that company worked or not.It's called marketing and/or branding.
I had a girlfriend who worked in interior design and repped several makers of cloth for commercial use in public buildings, like lobby furniture, hotel furniture, etc. One of the makers brought out the same exact cloth, made on the same production line, but labeled with different labels, one for a lower end price point, another for a mid range price point, and still another for a high end price point. The low end sold for $20 a yard, the mide range was $50 a yard, and the high end was $100 a yard. Same exact product.
Low end buyers bought it at $20, mid range bought it at $50, and high end bought it at $100, and they sold tons of cloth in this manner, selling to all different markets. Each buyer was convinced there was a difference in the quality because of the label, but it was all in their heads.
That was a real eyeopener for me.
If you have to tell me it’s there, it ain’t there.Paying attention to a pipe maker's grading can be very helpful in seeing aspects of quality that might not be immediately obvious. A maker defines a challenge when he selects and shapes a block, and the grading reflects both the innate beauty of that particular piece of wood, and the success that the maker has had in shaping it.