Peterson Vape Pipe: The Rest of the Story

[woodsroad]

A while back, someone posted a link to a site that looked like an official Peterson site, but the URL suggested otherwise. I can't find the original PM post, but on that page, was an image and description of a vape pipe:

There was a lot of speculation as to the validity of the page, so I emailed Peterson's, and today i received a response:
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From: Tom Palmer

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 3:39 AM

To: -------

Cc: Conor Palmer

Subject: Vape pipe.
Dear Dan,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
I can assure you that it is most definitely not a Peterson pipe and we are taking steps through our

lawyers to have this removed.
Thank you for supporting Peterson.
Kind regards,
Tom Palmer.
Tom Palmer

Managing Director

Kapp & Peterson Ltd.

Pearse Street, Sallynoggin

Co. Dublin, Ireland.

Company Registration No. 32027

Tel 353 1 2851011 Fax 353 1 2856593
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[ashdigger]

So, you're going to spoil rampant speculation with facts?? Holy crap man, have you no soul?

 

[woodsroad]

Tim, I thought that today would be a good time to roll back the veil of speculation, false representation, innuendo and straw man arguments.

 

[pipesmokingtom]

Thanks for doing the actual leg work to get an answer.
Much appreciated.

 

[woodsroad]

If anyone has the link to the OP, I'd be happy to add this response to that thread.

 

[pipesmokingtom]

Original Thread

 

[owen]

Good effort.Peterson could do with a presence around here as a lot of opinions on the brand feature on the forum.

 

[woodsroad]

I emailed them a link to the original thread.

 

[texmexpipe]

Thanks for the clear up!

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Behance is a website for conceptual design students in industrial design and arts. The website for the pipe is for the student to take the design and work through conceptually linking the design to the company's history. A student doesn't have to get permission from a company to make a design using their trademarks etc... Especially when the site is well known for being conceptual. This should just be seen as flattery for Peterson, IMO. The student did a great job.
If you look there are product designs for tons of different companies.

 

[pipesmokingtom]

Well, that makes it even more clear.
I guess we were getting bent out of shape at less than nothing.

 

[aldecaker]

That's one of our favorite things! :wink: I do stand by my original assessment of the item itself, though- it's horrible looking.

 

[pipesmokingtom]

Hope the poor fella doesn't get blindsided by some sort of C&D.
If this was a design project/thought experiment, it was probably out of a place of love.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Yeh, you make a Peterson Vape pipe design because you really respect and love the company, so you put your heart into it, really thinking it through. Then a guy on a forum that has a hard-on for vapes, because he's old and curmudgeony, and a heart full of hate and black tar vile, ha ha.. like all of us. He contacts the Peterson company, and the company that this students has poured so much love into... slaps a letter of C&D.
That would be great. Let's crush the dreams of our young and creative. ::

 

[aldecaker]

No, you're right, Cosmic. Let's let life do that. 8O

 

[woodsroad]

I am the agent of death. Or didn't you know that already, Michael? ;-)
BTW, the first thing that any design student should learn is the importance of intellectual property. The system of trademarks and copyrights were put in place to protect the kind of stuff that designers make their living from. This guy gets an "F" in a subject that he damn well needs to know if he ever expects to be successful. Imitation isn't the sincerest form of flattery, it's theft.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

It's always good to know an agent. All sorts of good uses. ::

 

[pipesmokingtom]

Imitation isn't the sincerest form of flattery, it's theft

True, but without the prospect of causing financial damage to the company you're emulating, it's not really theft is it? It's just a young Korean kid choosing a topic and hashing it out.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

BTW, the first thing that any design student should learn is the importance of intellectual property. The system of trademarks and copyrights were put in place to protect the kind of stuff that designers make their living from. This guy gets an "F" in a subject that he damn well needs to know if he ever expects to be successful. Imitation isn't the sincerest form of flattery, it's theft.

Copyright and trademark have educational uses built into the US laws. This site is in Korea which acknowledges US laws. Students may use a limited number of instances of intellectual property, as long as it is for creative and design reasons.

 

[pipesmokingtom]

Although, now that a lot of us are convinced Peterson is making vapes now, some of us will never buy a Peterson pipe again! Surely, this was the last straw for SOMEONE, right? :wink: