Peterson Iora Series

[cosmicfolklore]

Yeh

I'm also a member of a RV/Travel Trailer forum. I can guarantee you that every time someone posts about they're new tow vehicle or trailer, someone will post the better alternatives to that truck or trailer. Or how that particular RV/camper is over priced and not what they used to be.

I say, it's your money, spend it how you wish.

Same for cycling forums and even sometimes on watch forums. And, I agree.

I too was dissuaded from Peterson years ago with my own experiences with their pipes, but I will have to say that my New Rua and Regaire have quickly found endeared themselves to me. They are a pleasure to smoke. Sure, sure, I had some issues. I wish they had warned me about the stain coming off, and why not just leave the chambers bare, rather than putting that nasty tasting stuff in the pipe? But, now I think I know how best to prepare a new pipe from them without messing up the stain.

I think that we should all let people know about the stain and bowl coatings. Maybe if people were better prepared for what they are getting, then there would be less surprise and disappointment.

 

[gervais]

Of course, as I mentioned, I’m not here trying to put anyone down. I’m only trying to point out, that when you compare other pipes they sell, the Price Matching doesn’t make sense, that’s all.

Even as I wrote this, I really couldn’t believe that Tinsky Bulldog they have was only $180. I better grab it before it goes! LOL ?

But seriously the Genod Pot for only $70 is as good as a Peterson over 3x-4x the cost.

So I’m not here making up stories, just trying to tell people, to look even at SPC’s own site to make comparisons.

P.S. I’m done...

Alot of the pipes you have posted do not hold my interest in the least. It just goes to show that brand and blast quality are all objectionable. It's all personal preference on what is worth what. I happen to find many of these iora pipes stunning for $200. The contrast is lovely, mixed with the rippling blasts.

 

[DanWil84]

They also dropped on the sp.eu site, €245... How much I like them its a pass for me.

 

[Merton]

Check out this Poker I just noticed for 221.31 Euro $243.36 same cost;

Pipe Mike Bay Hobo Mini Poker Rusticated - Tabaccheria Corti Lecco - Online Shop

Pipe Mike Bay Hobo Poker Rusticated

tabaccheriacorti.com

Anyone that doesn’t know Mike, he tutored under and works with Eltang, and his pipes are far superior to Peterson’s in this price range, maybe even their highest range.

This is just one fine example, and I’ve seen a lot of fine pipes in the $250-$300 range from craftsmen better than what Peterson is selling here.

I’m not trying to toot my own horn here, but my Radice Rind Straight cost less than these Peterson and I know the craftsmanship is better and a better smoker, based off the Peterson I just recently bought, Peterson’s quality of craftsmanship hasn’t changed in the past year.

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Take a look at the blast on my Pete, I didn’t see one on SPC with this nice of a blast, and my pipe was $100 less and the quality is the same Pete, but a nicer blast work.

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Love the Bay poker (great price) and Radice's are a much better buy than almost anything else out there (including Castello).

 

[PipeIT]

Sorry, just can’t shut up here! LOL ?

@gervais I think you are misunderstanding my point.

So as an example, you posted a Pete...

Now what do we have on this pipe?

1. Acrylic stem
2. Silver
3. Briar wood
4. A particular blast patten, shape and color.
5. Chamber coating

When it comes to costs, there should be a price point, on the materials, and craftsmanship that determine cost, beyond this, it’s a personal price the craftsmen place on it for their value in time spent, and everyone looks at their worth/value different, which brings about cost differences.

Of course Artisian pipe makers and their skills, for lack of better words, their Artistic quality they bring, these prices will also fluctuate, whatever the craftsmen deem worthy. But, if you compare several individual carvers, of what would be considered pipes in the same levels of class, quality, you will see that the prices between them do not vary greatly at all, they are all pretty competitively priced.

Consider, how many of the pipes out there, are made with the same level of quality in materials, yet their prices fluctuate greatly between them.

I’m only trying to point out, what everyone should understand and agree on, that when we are dealing with pipes, with the same levels of quality in materials, then prices should be somewhat consistent.

Many of us get this point, I hope you understand now.

So this was never about what looks nice to someone and the value they place on it, and what they would pay, but what it’s really worth in the marketplace.

And...

If we allow pipe makers to charge whatever a person is willing, because of their likes in a pipe, then we’d never really have a fair market place to buy in, as consumers.

So is Peterson placing a $240 price tag on pipes, because they want to simply push the market to see who is willing to go there, or they actually believe in the cost of their materials and workmanship it is worth the actual value.

Companies know there will always be people willing to pay a higher price in something that is not worth it, because the product appeals to them.

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

Sorry, just can’t shut up here! LOL ?

@gervais I think you are misunderstanding my point.

So as an example, you posted a Pete...

Now what do we have on this pipe?

1. Acrylic stem
2. Silver
3. Briar wood
4. A particular blast patten, shape and color.
5. Chamber coating

When it comes to costs, there should be a price point, on the materials, and craftsmanship that determine cost, beyond this, it’s a personal price the craftsmen place on it for their value in time spent, and everyone looks at their worth/value different, which brings about cost differences.

Of course Artisian pipe makers and their skills, for lack of better words, their Artistic quality they bring, these prices will also fluctuate, whatever the craftsmen deem worthy. But, if you compare several individual carvers, of what would be considered pipes in the same levels of class, quality, you will see that the prices between them do not vary greatly at all, they are all pretty competitively priced.

Consider, how many of the pipes out there, are made with the same level of quality in materials, yet their prices fluctuate greatly between them.

I’m only trying to point out, what everyone should understand and agree on, that when we are dealing with pipes, with the same levels of quality in materials, then prices should be somewhat consistent.

Many of us get this point, I hope you understand now.

So this was never about what looks nice to someone and the value they place on it, and what they would pay, but what it’s really worth in the marketplace.

And...

If we allow pipe makers to charge whatever a person is willing, because of their likes in a pipe, then we’d never really have a fair market place to buy in, as consumers.

So is Peterson placing a $240 price tag on pipes, because they want to simply push the market to see who is willing to go there, or they actually believe in the cost of their materials and workmanship it is worth the actual value.

Companies know there will always be people willing to pay a higher price in something that is not worth it, because the product appeals to them.

A rebuttal!

 

[Chasing Embers]

Sorry, just can’t shut up here! LOL ?

@gervais I think you are misunderstanding my point.

So as an example, you posted a Pete...

Now what do we have on this pipe?

1. Acrylic stem
2. Silver
3. Briar wood
4. A particular blast patten, shape and color.
5. Chamber coating

When it comes to costs, there should be a price point, on the materials, and craftsmanship that determine cost, beyond this, it’s a personal price the craftsmen place on it for their value in time spent, and everyone looks at their worth/value different, which brings about cost differences.

Of course Artisian pipe makers and their skills, for lack of better words, their Artistic quality they bring, these prices will also fluctuate, whatever the craftsmen deem worthy. But, if you compare several individual carvers, of what would be considered pipes in the same levels of class, quality, you will see that the prices between them do not vary greatly at all, they are all pretty competitively priced.

Consider, how many of the pipes out there, are made with the same level of quality in materials, yet their prices fluctuate greatly between them.

I’m only trying to point out, what everyone should understand and agree on, that when we are dealing with pipes, with the same levels of quality in materials, then prices should be somewhat consistent.

Many of us get this point, I hope you understand now.

So this was never about what looks nice to someone and the value they place on it, and what they would pay, but what it’s really worth in the marketplace.

And...

If we allow pipe makers to charge whatever a person is willing, because of their likes in a pipe, then we’d never really have a fair market place to buy in, as consumers.

So is Peterson placing a $240 price tag on pipes, because they want to simply push the market to see who is willing to go there, or they actually believe in the cost of their materials and workmanship it is worth the actual value.

Companies know there will always be people willing to pay a higher price in something that is not worth it, because the product appeals to them.

 

[PipeIT]

I just want to make it clear, I’m not standing on any sides here, just trying to make points and comparisons and shed light.

Look as an example a lot of fine carvers out there in China, Indonesia, Russia, Eastern Block EU, and lots more poorer parts and 3rd world, carving up pipes with the same quality in parts, selling pipes for a lot less.

Many smokers here have brought up a lot of these carvers out there, Andrey Kharatinov is one that comes to mind.

So, another world of carvers out there, that show us a very different reality in pricing.

I just hope everyone understands now, what I’ve been trying to get across is all.

Be well everyone!

@Chasing Embers yepper!

 

[TN Jed]

It seems to me the $50-75 worth of silver work and the extra staining steps both done by hand makes them well beyond your typical production pipe.

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

It was back in action yesterday - it is a really nice smoking pipe and fits just right. Reason I'm posting about it again, is when my wife got home yesterday she noticed it sitting out and immediately, "is that new?", lol, and "Wow, what is that called, that silver part is really cool" and "I love that finish".

 

[kola]

In the muscle car years we had a few sayings. "Chrome don't get ya home." And, " All show, no go."

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

In the muscle car years we had a few sayings. "Chrome don't get ya home." And, " All show, no go."

So show and go would be a win?

Plenty of chrome back in the day! Loved it.

 

[JackOrion]

Did I miss something, did these not sell out last year? Did SP.com just post some NOS? Or have the ones currently available always been available…..

 

[AroEnglish]

This is a different release of the Iora finish. The original release were FT spigots whereas these ones non-spigot p-lips.