Non-Aro Vs. Aro Status -- A Shift

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Here is the story as I saw it unfold. We are not a legitimate sample of the pipe tobacco community as a whole. We are hobbyist that want to talk about different pipes and tobaccos. Real pipesmokers, just smoke their pipes and mind their own businesses. I see these guys every time I go to the Briary. They have absolutely no interest in talking about smoking.

"Just give me my damn Vanilla Goo and screw off." Sure, I dabble in aromatics, myself, but I have found very few to be of interest enough to write about them. Sure, sure we ridiculed aromatic smokers, but to some extent it was because they never contribute to the conversations. But, we would posts about Autumn Evening, Vanilla Cream Flake, 1Q, Blah Hobbits Sticky Cherry Weed, from my very first day here. But, they never get much talk, just a few comments, no real conversation.
Then Kevin got wind that we were mean to aromatic smokers. Brian even told us on the radioshow. So, we lightened up. Some of us actively spreading the "smoke what you like, like what you smoke" attitude. I even tried to provoke some aro talk with a few posts. But, all in all, I was talking to non-aro guys about what it's like to smoke an aromatic. Aro guys just have nothing to add, but complaints. "Why don't you guys like us?"
But, we would constantly get people who joined to complain about us not taking aromatic smokers seriously. I would encourage them to post a review. They wouldn't. Everyone was nice, but they'd still blame it on being a non-aro dominated forum. Yet, to those saying this, I would always just ask them to talk about their aros. But, no, we were the bad guys.
I know why this is. It's because there's just not enough interesting things to talk about concerning aromatics. If you smoke a cherry blend that you can't taste, burns your tongue, and you pretend to like it, then what they hell are you gonna tell us? "My wife likes the way it smells." Aromatic guys are always welcome. But, we need the interesting conversation aro guys. Not, the I-wanna-complain-about-not-being-taken-seriously aromatic guys.
My challenge is to write review. Comment on an already existing review. Talk to us about whatever aro's you like. What pipe do you like better with which aros. But, if you want to tell us that we suck, then don't complain when we don't respond with love and kindness.
Sure, sure we talk about aros, but you'll find talk of the level that we do now, back then. There's just not much deeper conversation to be had. But, I am always willing to be wrong. Prove me wrong. Talk more deeply about your aromatic. Make me a liar, and post more aromatic talk. But, my guess is that if you smoke an aromatic, like most of these guys they only smoke that one aromatic. They aren't willing to change, because they smoke for different reasons than us hobbyist. Even if these hobbyist hate being called hobbyist, if they smoke a non-aro, they tend to have more aspects of the hobby than the aromatic guys.
Prove me wrong. That would make me the happiest. We all would love new aspects of this antiquated past time to talk about. But, so far...

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
If you smoke a cherry blend that you can't taste, burns your tongue, and you pretend to like it, then what they hell are you gonna tell us?
"I wish I had gone for the Royal Yacht instead!" of course.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,622
121,377
My challenge is to write review. Comment on an already existing review.
I'll go one step further. This is the first time it's been reviewed.
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/campd-belmont-station#post-1166128

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
Technically, Prince Albert is an aromatic and I just polished off a fat bowl of that, so I'm doing my part.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,248
57,310
67
Sarasota Florida
When I moved into my newest home in 2012, I had a neighbor who smoked a pipe. I saw him one day with a pipe in his mouth so I stuck up a conversation with him. He was in his 70's and I found out that he only smoked Captain Black Gold and that he owned 2 Grabows. The guy had been smoking a pipe forever and he had no interest in the types of tobacco I tried talking to him about. I also tried talking about pipes with him and I could tell he thought I was nuts for mentioning several different makers. His pipe and tobacco experience is much more similar to most pipe smokers than is ours. We are a very small segment of the pipe smokers out there.

 
Yep, Harris, the old guy that I check in on every day only smokes Prince Albert in a Grabow, and he would rather eat glass without his dentures than talk about pipes or tobacco, and he smokes all day long. I also see men who buy their two oz of Peach, apple, or cherry flavored goop (whatever their one tobacco is) at The Briary every week, and even though they smoke Castellos and Dunhills, they refuses to come to a pipe club meeting. They don't want to try new tobaccos, nor talk about pipes. So, except for the rare few of us that don't mind trying a new aromatic, most aromatic guys are way more dogmatic and fire and brimstone about their piping.
So, do we tolerate aromatic smokers? Absolutely. Are most of us willing to try an aromatic, nope. But, there is a place for aromatic guys here, but they just have to be interested in some of the same things that we are also. I find myself developing more questions about aromatics than aromatic guys do.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
They don't want to try new tobaccos, nor talk about pipes.
Generally, I think I fit into this category. I came here to learn, stayed for the company. Other pipe forums are so badly mismanaged that I am proud whenever I contribute something good to this one.
But otherwise, talking about pipes is like talking about gear. Some dudes can go on and on about their new laptop and which flavor of Lunix they installed on it. There's a time for that in life, I think, but not now, for me.
However, any knowledge I have came about through pain and diligence, and so I gladly pass it on, in any of a number of topic areas. So sometimes you do end up talking laptops (Acer/MSI > Asus/Apple/Lenovo) even if there is not much personal interest in it.
For most men, smoking a pipe has always been a matter of finding something good enough to serve a purpose in their lives. For us now, with smoking being a persecuted art as Rome 2.0 falls, we find it fascinating enough to want to learn, preserve, nurture, and promote this anachronistic and yet eternal habit.

 
May 8, 2017
1,666
1,883
Sugar Grove, IL, USA
Having now traversed the common route of a new piper (aromatic to English to Virginia) and enjoying the entire journey, I find myself treating these as different courses at a meal. I love a nice, mild aromatic as my “dessert”.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
2016: Aromatics users to the back of the closet!
2018: Aromatics are OK within a well-balanced diet of natural tobaccos.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
It was the banana tobacco that did it, I'll bet.
I love my Prince Albert, which is sort of one of the original aros.

 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,184
15,037
The Arm of Orion
I'm an aro bloke. Which isn't to say I hate latakia with a passion, or something. I still want to smoke non-aro blends. I don't see why tobaccos have to be a choose-your-faction situation, à la Canon vs. Nikon, or Apple vs. PC.

 
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