New Peterson Series: The Ragaire Drops Tomorrow, 11/19

[ssjones]

Fresh off the Peterson Pipe Notes blog press:
Alas, no P-lip Vulcanite stem option, a requirement for me on a Peterson.

255. SPECIAL BULLETIN: The Ragaire Drops Tomorrow, 11/19

This fall has been wonderfully intense for collectors of new-release Petersons, which began with the Halloween System and was followed in quick succession by the Rua Spigot, the Trinity Fox, the Sp…

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[Merton]

Thanks for the update and link. I love sandblast, but the stem looks oddly out of place in proportion to the stummel to me.

 

[captpat]

I agree w/@Merton, looks a little weird to me.

 

[AroEnglish]

Agree with you both: sandblast looks great but not a fan of the stems.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I like the one straight military bulldog. But, my preferences are always with straights anyways. I agree, the proportions of the stems to stummel seem off somehow on the bents. But, I'm not a fan of most of their bents anyways.

 

[burleybreath]

"The Ragaire was conceived by Josh Burgess, managing director, who also—and rather amazingly—did all the bowl-coatings for them."

LOL. Pass. Vomit.

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

Pass.

True

 

[cosmicfolklore]

"The Ragaire was conceived by Josh Burgess, managing director, who also—and rather amazingly—did all the bowl-coatings for them."

LOL. Pass. Vomit.

They actually promoted the bowl coating guy? Maybe it was like to get him out of that department or something.

 

[craig61a]

Meh...

 

[STP]

Thanks for posting, but I agree with all of the above. Not loving the profile?

 

[mso489]

I have a gracious plenty of Petes, and I do like pipes where the stem is sized to the shank, but if the price is right, I might take another look when they are issued. I think the somewhat stalky stems minimize the Peterson hefty look which I favor. But these may grow on me. I'll reserve judgement. Right now, I'm infatuated with the Kaywoodie line including the Yello-Bole and Medico sub-brands. They seem like an incredible bargain for the quality.

 

[sablebrush52]

It's a concept, I guess.

 

[anotherbob]

I actually like them. Weirdly in the pic of all them sitting there in a crowd, don't like the look there. However the close up of one single pipe I find that I really like it.
Oh and the article stated the man also worked on carbonizing bowls that day, not that he came up with the idea.

 

[craig61a]

I actually like them. Weirdly in the pic of all them sitting there in a crowd, don't like the look there. However the close up of one single pipe I find that I really like it.
Oh and the article stated the man also worked on carbonizing bowls that day, not that he came up with the idea.

Josh Burgess et al conceived, came up with... There's a difference?

 

[Streeper541]

I like them.
I'll probably get one because it's got a 150 offering.
Going to wait and see the price tag first though.

 

[anotherbob]

I like them.
I'll probably get one because it's got a 150 offering.
Going to wait and see the price tag first though.

i didn't say it but i agree the price will make a big difference. Guessing lower mid range or higher bargain price

 

[mingc]

The central design feature is clearly the elimination of the metal bands used to support the army mount shanks. To get rid of the bands, they had to thicken the shanks. It looks like they also reduced the diameter of the stems.

A brass ring insert would have presumably allowed them to keep the regular shank and stem dimensions but also cost more.

 

[georged]

The central design feature is clearly the elimination of the metal bands used to support the army mount shanks. To get rid of the bands, they had to thicken the shanks. It looks like they also reduced the diameter of the stems.

A brass ring insert would have presumably allowed them to keep the regular shank and stem dimensions but also cost more.

^^^^ This is the answer / explanation

Whether or not the resulting profile appeals to you is an individual thing. Creative-sculptural-"free form" pipes live on their own planet, and traditional shapes live on theirs. Where things get tricky is when changes are introduced on TraditionalPipeWorld...

HUGE props to Peterson in general for having the clangers to even go there. lol

From a technical standpoint there's a lot to like. MUCH more force would be required to snap one of those stems than a cut-tenon one, and the shanks look bulletproof. All of the benefits of a silver-capped Army design without the expense and fuss (and to some people, gaudiness) OF a cap, in other words.

It'll be interesting to see if it catches on. TraditionalPipeWorld's approach to change makes me think of those Bering Sea crab boat crews "welcoming" a greenhorn.

 

[craig61a]

It's a concept, I guess.

 

[Merton]

^^^^ This is the answer / explanation

Whether or not the resulting profile appeals to you is an individual thing. Creative-sculptural-"free form" pipes live on their own planet, and traditional shapes live on theirs. Where things get tricky is when changes are introduced on TraditionalPipeWorld...

HUGE props to Peterson in general for having the clangers to even go there. lol

From a technical standpoint there's a lot to like. MUCH more force would be required to snap one of those stems than a cut-tenon one, and the shanks look bulletproof. All of the benefits of a silver-capped Army design without the expense and fuss (and to some people, gaudiness) OF a cap, in other words.

It'll be interesting to see if it catches on. TraditionalPipeWorld's approach to change makes me think of those Bering Sea crab boat crews "welcoming" a greenhorn.

Naturally i would defer to your expertise and i am interested in your thoughts. To me, as long time smoker, the shanks are obviously larger and more substantial but the stems look sort of tenuosly placed rather than stronger. As for the traditional observation, there is othing wrong with appreciating a more traditional pipe. Beauty being in the eye of the beholder and all. I think, for example, that Werner Mummert's designs are very unappealing but appreciate the apparent craftsmanship and that others clearly love them.